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[Dekaeneas-Spy]

I want to express my complaint:

why not look all the names of players in the forum?
Is there anyone who has a problem?  

 

 

 

 

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[Midnightguy]

D-Spy,  they are anonymous because they didn't create a forum account yet or forgot to log in.  It has nothing to do with site not wanting to show their name.  People are welcome to still check out forum, but don't need to be logged in.  They only must do so, if they wish to post. 

[The Rainmaker]

wow this stuff sounds like a headache.  I would like to participate in a tournament sometime but I'm a bit skeptical.  After reading some of these posts it seems no matter what somebody is always unhappy.

[Dekaeneas-Spy]

D-Spy,  they are anonymous because they didn't create a forum account yet or forgot to log in.  It has nothing to do with site not wanting to show their name.  People are welcome to still check out forum, but don't need to be logged in.  They only must do so, if they wish to post. 

They exempted the Moderators.

Personally, I believe that Anonymous does not forget to make connection to Forum

but, I guess monitored daily what it is said in forums(obtain information).

For this reason I would not exist Anonymous in here.
But I know it does not.

 

was just doing a labeling.

 

Thank you Mid.

 

 

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Nortrom, on 30 Jan 2014 - 3:57 PM, said:
I can't believe this thread is still going on.


Dekaeneas-Spy, on 30 Jan 2014 - 4:29 PM, said:snapback.png
Dekaeneas-Spy, on 30 Jan 2014 - 4:29 PM, said:
I agree with you and I'm sorry for this

The Prof, on 30 Jan 2014 - 6:33 PM, said:
No need to be sorry.  I think this discussion here is a good thing.  The TC is, and has been, privately discussing what is the best way to proceed if we get a lot more people than we expected who want to participate.  So it's fine if any member of the community wants to share their own suggestions.  Tournaments are new to this site; there is not an established precedent.  So I welcome the many suggestion that people have provided.  I may not agree with them all, but I like that people are thinking about how to make a great tournament experience.  Even if there are no changes this time around, these ideas may find their way into future tournaments.   
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Εχω πει να σταματησουμε να μιλαμε για προβληματα του 1st champion league stratego πριν ακομη αρχισει.
Αναφερομαι στα προβληματα που αφορουν τους κανονες(αυτη η συζητηση ειπα δεν οφελει τωρα και μονο κακο κανει) και οχι για το αν θα προκυψουν προβληματα αν ο αριθμος των παικτων ειναι μεγαλυτερος απο τους 48 παικτες(αυτο το συζηταμε οταν τελειωσουν οι εγγραφες).
Λαθος καταλαβατε αλλα δεν πειραζει.
Δεν ειναι δυνατο να ξεκιναει μια μεγαλη διοργανωση και ενω ειχαμε 2 μηνες χρονο για να συζητησουμε και να κανουμε τις προτασεις μας σχετικα με τους κανονες, να ερχονται τωρα καποιοι και να πιεζουν να σταματισουν οι εγγραφες στις 48, την 2η μολις μερα απο την εναρξη των εγγραφων.
Να εχουμε διαμαχες με χαρακτηρισμους οπως:
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The Maestro, on 29 Jan 2014 - 9:23 PM, said:
not if 10-12 other (higher) people sign up in these 3 weeks.....so it is not very smart to say things like that to a player.

Maxroelofs

Eddit:

Criticism is permitted, but please keep the insults to yourself."

Να θελουν και να ζητουν καποιοι να μην εχουν προστασια οι 16 καλυτεροι παικτες απο τους 48 ενω η επιτροπη αποφασισε να εχουν προστασια.
(Δεν ειναι αγαπητε The Prof αυτη  προταση αλλαγης των κανονων);

Να ζητουν καποιοι να γινει κληρωση ακομη και στους προκριματικους γυρους και να τυχουν μεταξυ τους μεγαλοι παικτες,με αποτελεσμα να φυγουν καποιοι μεγαλοι παικτες απο την αρχη του champion league.(Δεν ειναι αυτο απαιτηση αλλαγης των κανονων που εσεις ορισατε και πολυ σωστα ειπατε να μην εχουμε κληρωση αλλα να γινεται συμφωνα με την καταταξη το ζευγαρωμα);

Οι κανονες βγηκανε με πολυ μελετη οπως ειπατε και οχι ελαφρα την καρδια και εγω προσωπικα νομιζω ειναι σωστοι, γι αυτο και τους υπογραφω-δεχομαι με την συμμετοχη μου.
Οποιος δεν τους δεχεται και επιμενει να αλλαξουν οπως αυτος θελει και δημιουργει προβληματα να μην παρει μερος,ειναι πολυ απλο.
Δεν το καταλαβαινω να δηλωνει συμμετοχη και να μην δεχεται τους κανονες.
Πως δεχεστε κατι τετοιο;Θεωρω ακυρη την συμμετοχη οποιου δεν δεχεται τους κανονες και θελει να παιξει στο champion league και θα το κανω θεμα αν το παραβλεπετε εσεις.

Ειδαμε να αλλαζει και καλως εκανε μετα απο παραμβαση μου, η ονομασια αυτου του topic(απο problems σε Solutions for First Champions League (SEPERATION OF POWERS: an open letter) γιατι οπως ειπα δεν πρεπει να μιλαμε για προβληματα τωρα.

The prof μπορειτε να κανετε ενα αλλο topic για να μιλατε εκει για ιδεες και προτασεις σε μελοντικα τουρνουα.
Εδω ειστε εκτος θεματος(και αν ειχα την δυναμη που εχετε εσεις   θα σας τα εκρυβα ολα ή επειδη ειμαι και λιγακι συναισθηματικος τυπος θα τα μετεφερα στο σωστο topic ). Το θεμα εδω ελεγε προβληματα και ξαφνικα τα προβληματα εγιναν λυσεις για το champion league stratego. Νομιζω οτι ειναι μια χαρα οι κανονες για το champion league(εκτος αν τους ορισατε ελαφρα την καρδια).

Αν αγαπητε The Prof υπαρξει μεγαλος αριθμος παικτων(ας πουμε 100) και θελετε να κανουμε τις προτασεις μας, ευχαριστως να τις κανουμε, αλλα ας περιμενουμε πρωτα να δουμε τον αριθμο που θα προκυψει και μετα(δεν ειμαι αρνητικος).

Οποτε μη μου λετε παραμυθια αγαπητε The Prof οτι η συζητηση ειναι καλη και να μην λυπαμαι εγω και ο nortrom, και επικεντρωνεστε στο ζητημα του αν προκυψει μεγαλος αριθμος παικτων, ενω το μεγαλυτερο μερος της συζητησης αναφερεται σε αλλαγες σχετικα με τους κανονες και μαλιστα απαιτητικα(κατα την γνωμη μου).

Ειχα αποφασισει να μην σας απαντησω αλλα δεν μου αρεσει να λετε διαφορετικα πραγματα απο αυτα που συνεβησαν και να κανετε πολιτικα γυρισματα.

Λυπαμαι και δεν θελω να το συνεχισουμε.

Τελος

Δεν μπορουσα να τα διατυπωσω στην αγγλικη γλωσσα και εγραψα στην μητρικη μου.

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I've to agree with the Maestro.

If you want to start brand new, start brand new..
I don't see why top players needs to be "boosted" anyway, it's not that they need it , do they?

And so what if they lose a game, in an early stage, shi happens, first of all the chance is slight low, second everyone can win of every one, that's how the game is..

I can't name a sport were a team or player who lost a final get's "boosted", than why, at Stratego you want to boost SIXTEEN!! players.

 

 

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Where Is Ya Flag, on 31 Jan 2014 - 04:26 AM, said:
I've to agree with the Maestro.

If you want to start brand new, start brand new..
I don't see why top players needs to be "boosted" anyway, it's not that they need it , do they?

And so what if they lose a game, in an early stage, shi happens, first of all the chance is slight low, second everyone can win of every one, that's how the game is..

I can't name a sport were a team or player who lost a final get's "boosted", than why, at Stratego you want to boost SIXTEEN!! players.
Δεν ειναι αυτο συζητηση για αλλαγες στους κανονες;
Τι λετε εσεις κυριε The Prof;
Ειναι καλη αυτη η συζητηση;
Oταν τους εχετε εξηγησει και εσυ και ο KARAISKAKIS(σχετικα με τους κανονες) και αυτοι επιμενουν να εφαρμοσετε τους δικους τους κανονες;
Αλλοι υποστηρικτες στην προσπαθεια σας να περασετε τους δικους σας κανονες κυριε the maestro;
Kλειστε το θεμα σας λεω ξανα.

Οσο δεν το κλεινετε το θεμα "απαιτηση αλλαγης των κανονων ΤΩΡΑ" θα εξακολουθω να μιλαω στη δικη μου γλωσσα και εξω απο τα δοντια.



14) When you sign up you acknowledge that you have read the rules and you accept them

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Ζηταει να συμμετεχει ο Where Is Ya Flag στο champion league αλλα δεν δεχεται τους κανονες(θελει αλλαγες).
Μα αυτο ερχεται σε αντιθεση με τον κανονα 14 ο οποιος λεει οτι με την εγγραφη σας δηλωνετε οτι εχετε διαβασει τους κανονες και τους αποδεχεστε.
Αρα εχουμε τον The Maestro και τον where is Ya Flag να δηλωνουν συμμετοχη(που σημαινει θελουν να παιξουν) αλλα με αλλους κανονες τους δικους τους, μη δεχομενοι τους κανονες που ορισε η επιτροπη και η επιτροπη κανει δεκτη την συμμετοχη τους.
Μου φαινεται λιγο τρελο.
Συγνωμη φιλοι μου.

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I want to participate.
+1 GMT, NL



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Dekaeneas-Spy, on 31 Jan 2014 - 08:46 AM, said:
Jibberish talk..

English mate, If you mention someones name, make sure that person can understand what you're saying..

"when you sign up, you read the rules,  you accept them"..

Uhmz.. No, people want to participate, they don't have to agree with all rules..

Matter of fact. Rule no.2 makes no sense to me..
90% of the cheaters ain't got caught, so the chance is high a few cheaters participate on whatever account, but they just don't got caught..
Besides that, there ain't no glitches and bugs nomore (I hope), so yeah, makes no sense.


Talking about reading rules and accepting terms etc..

If people would actually read rules and terms of for example google and facebook but also the new game consoles, people would not use them..
So basicly , people just want to join the mass, and who doesn't know, doesn't care

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Thanks for the comment :

Dekaeneas-Spy, on 31 Jan 2014 - 08:46 AM, said:snapback.png
Dekaeneas-Spy, on 31 Jan 2014 - 08:46 AM, said:
Jibberish talk..

I really liked your answer :  Uhmz.. No, people want to participate, they don't have to agree with all rules..
I learned to respect the rules and follow them (general,in life, game, sport, etc.).
In the jungle only there are no rules.
You do not like the rules who set by the Commission,you wanted to change some, others were overlooked, but you want to play.
Very beautiful it sounds
I understand how you think sir.   Where Is Ya Flag said:So basicly , people just want to join the mass, and who doesn't know, doesn't care.

Thank you

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The Tournament Committee (KARAISKAKIS, maxroelofs, The Prof, and Napoleon 1er)

tell please the players who want to change some rules now that this can not be done at this time, for the reason that 53 people have read and agreed to play with these rules.
If you want let do in a different topic with proposals for the next tournament.
The change is certain to create confusion.

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Dekaeneas-Spy, on 01 Feb 2014 - 12:45 AM, said:
Thanks for the comment :

Dekaeneas-Spy, on 31 Jan 2014 - 08:46 AM, said:snapback.png

I really liked your answer :  Uhmz.. No, people want to participate, they don't have to agree with all rules..
I learned to respect the rules and follow them (general,in life, game, sport, etc.).
In the jungle only there are no rules.
You do not like the rules who set by the Commission,you wanted to change some, others were overlooked, but you want to play.
Very beautiful it sounds
I understand how you think sir.   Where Is Ya Flag said:So basicly , people just want to join the mass, and who doesn't know, doesn't care.

Thank you

Dekaeneas-Spy

I wanted to join this tournament, I respect the rules, but I don't have to agree with all of them to be the "right rules".
I wanted to change some? What are you smoking?! I havent been on for weeks, so what did I wanted to change?!

Don't let me start on man-made rules.
I bless on the people who ain't like you, if the whole world was like you, there wouldn't be any revolutions..

So I suggest you sign up for politics, ...

 

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Dekaeneas-Spy, on 01 Feb 2014 - 1:10 PM, said:
I think it's my right to write in any language I want.(you have done google translation and not like;Nothing is deleted).
Also i can to tell in my opinion.
My view is in this phase is to stop talking about problems. (We had the whole time to do it ago).
I said to close the issue for the good of the tournament. (Is only my opinion).
Not swore anyone (unlike other players).
Please, sir Maestro not trying to impress because you know well English.
Does not say anywhere that everybody must be written in English.

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It's others people right to discuss and ask questions and come with solutions, if YOU don't like it, don't reply to it.
Messages as, these are the rules, let the commision be, we had the time, or Greek jibberish does not stop anyone from asking/discussing and seeking for an answer, besides that it doesn't add much value in the discussion..

"lets end the discussion and close the issue, commision decided".. Way to go, genius, What if European leaders would say the same about Greece?

Okay okay, this is just a game, but it has the same principles..

Let us all just be open for discussion , open for solutions.
In the end it's not about all those me myself and I guys, as you, me or the mods, it's about Stratego at Stratego.com
And wether you like it or not , both on forum and in-game we all got alot to solve and alot to learn, as it's far from perfect.
Mods and staff can't do it without us and we can't do it without mods and staff

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Where Is Ya Flag, on 02 Feb 2014 - 05:54 AM, said:
It's others people right to discuss and ask questions and come with solutions, if YOU don't like it, don't reply to it.
Messages as, these are the rules, let the commision be, we had the time, or Greek jibberish does not stop anyone from asking/discussing and seeking for an answer, besides that it doesn't add much value in the discussion..

"lets end the discussion and close the issue, commision decided".. Way to go, genius, What if European leaders would say the same about Greece?

Okay okay, this is just a game, but it has the same principles..

Let us all just be open for discussion , open for solutions.
In the end it's not about all those me myself and I guys, as you, me or the mods, it's about Stratego at Stratego.com
And wether you like it or not , both on forum and in-game we all got alot to solve and alot to learn, as it's far from perfect.
Mods and staff can't do it without us and we can't do it without mods and staff

I agree that it has principles and respect the rules identified by the Commission.
I speak with arguments and not fret nor revile.

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Dekaeneas-Spy, on 02 Feb 2014 - 07:14 AM, said:
I agree that it has principles and respect the rules identified by the Commission.
I speak with arguments and not fret nor revile.

off the subject

C'mon, if you reply, reply with something we can use..
Your replies are a waste of space.

Just because you don't know what jibberish means doesn't mean it's off the subject.

Every reply of yours is something like "I this, I that, my so" , when do you start to understand this whole discussion is not about YOU!!
So once again, If you don't got anything usefull to say, leave it.



Problem: Somehow I don't like the way things are paired..
For example, the no1 has always the "easiest" opponent.

-No 1 vs the worst person with free entrance
-No 1 vs no. 32
-No 1 vs no.8

You might aswell give this person 20 ranking points already.
Wouldn't it be much more interesting (either for the no1 player who participate and for the tournamen) to change this somehow?

As, in my opinion, this will be an ungoing cycle in future tournaments otherwise. People who really don't need to be boosted get "easy" tournaments + rankings, and people who join for fun to see where they stand in comparising to others will always have to have a "hard" time, which means there is nothing to compare in the end.

Which eventually lead to another , none saying ranking.


Another problem:
This tournament is a much more succes than any of you could dream of..
Within 3 days it was already full.. So the next 2 and half weeks will be full of subsitutes sign-ups? You just gonna dissapoint any person who want to participate but was simply not online during these 3 days and not belong to the top 16?
Or are you guys gonna step your game up and try to make it a bigger tournament?

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Nortrom, on 30 Jan 2014 - 3:57 PM, said:
I can't believe this thread is still going on.


Dekaeneas-Spy, on 30 Jan 2014 - 4:29 PM, said:
I agree with you and I'm sorry for this
 

 

The Prof, on 30 Jan 2014 - 6:33 PM, said:
No need to be sorry.  I think this discussion here is a good thing.  The TC is, and has been, privately discussing what is the best way to proceed if we get a lot more people than we expected who want to participate.  So it's fine if any member of the community wants to share their own suggestions.  Tournaments are new to this site; there is not an established precedent.  So I welcome the many suggestion that people have provided.  I may not agree with them all, but I like that people are thinking about how to make a great tournament experience.  Even if there are no changes this time around, these ideas may find their way into future tournaments.   

 

 

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Εχω πει να σταματησουμε να μιλαμε για προβληματα του 1st champion league stratego πριν ακομη αρχισει.
Αναφερομαι στα προβληματα που αφορουν τους κανονες(αυτη η συζητηση ειπα δεν οφελει τωρα και μονο κακο κανει) και οχι για το αν θα προκυψουν προβληματα αν ο αριθμος των παικτων ειναι μεγαλυτερος απο τους 48 παικτες(αυτο το συζηταμε οταν τελειωσουν οι εγγραφες).
Λαθος καταλαβατε αλλα δεν πειραζει.
Δεν ειναι δυνατο να ξεκιναει μια μεγαλη διοργανωση και ενω ειχαμε 2 μηνες χρονο για να συζητησουμε και να κανουμε τις προτασεις μας σχετικα με τους κανονες, να ερχονται τωρα καποιοι και να πιεζουν να σταματισουν οι εγγραφες στις 48, την 2η μολις μερα απο την εναρξη των εγγραφων.
Να εχουμε διαμαχες με χαρακτηρισμους οπως:
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The Maestro, on 29 Jan 2014 - 9:23 PM, said:
not if 10-12 other (higher) people sign up in these 3 weeks.....so it is not very smart to say things like that to a player.

Maxroelofs

Eddit:

Criticism is permitted, but please keep the insults to yourself."

Να θελουν και να ζητουν καποιοι να μην εχουν προστασια οι 16 καλυτεροι παικτες απο τους 48 ενω η επιτροπη αποφασισε να εχουν προστασια.
(Δεν ειναι αγαπητε The Prof αυτη  προταση αλλαγης των κανονων);

Να ζητουν καποιοι να γινει κληρωση ακομη και στους προκριματικους γυρους και να τυχουν μεταξυ τους μεγαλοι παικτες,με αποτελεσμα να φυγουν καποιοι μεγαλοι παικτες απο την αρχη του champion league.(Δεν ειναι αυτο απαιτηση αλλαγης των κανονων που εσεις ορισατε και πολυ σωστα ειπατε να μην εχουμε κληρωση αλλα να γινεται συμφωνα με την καταταξη το ζευγαρωμα);

Οι κανονες βγηκανε με πολυ μελετη οπως ειπατε και οχι ελαφρα την καρδια και εγω προσωπικα νομιζω ειναι σωστοι, γι αυτο και τους υπογραφω-δεχομαι με την συμμετοχη μου.
Οποιος δεν τους δεχεται και επιμενει να αλλαξουν οπως αυτος θελει και δημιουργει προβληματα να μην παρει μερος,ειναι πολυ απλο.
Δεν το καταλαβαινω να δηλωνει συμμετοχη και να μην δεχεται τους κανονες.
Πως δεχεστε κατι τετοιο;Θεωρω ακυρη την συμμετοχη οποιου δεν δεχεται τους κανονες και θελει να παιξει στο champion league και θα το κανω θεμα αν το παραβλεπετε εσεις.

Ειδαμε να αλλαζει και καλως εκανε μετα απο παραμβαση μου, η ονομασια αυτου του topic(απο problems σε Solutions for First Champions League (SEPERATION OF POWERS: an open letter) γιατι οπως ειπα δεν πρεπει να μιλαμε για προβληματα τωρα.

The prof μπορειτε να κανετε ενα αλλο topic για να μιλατε εκει για ιδεες και προτασεις σε μελοντικα τουρνουα.
Εδω ειστε εκτος θεματος(και αν ειχα την δυναμη που εχετε εσεις   θα σας τα εκρυβα ολα ή επειδη ειμαι και λιγακι συναισθηματικος τυπος θα τα μετεφερα στο σωστο topic ). Το θεμα εδω ελεγε προβληματα και ξαφνικα τα προβληματα εγιναν λυσεις για το champion league stratego. Νομιζω οτι ειναι μια χαρα οι κανονες για το champion league(εκτος αν τους ορισατε ελαφρα την καρδια).

Αν αγαπητε The Prof υπαρξει μεγαλος αριθμος παικτων(ας πουμε 100) και θελετε να κανουμε τις προτασεις μας, ευχαριστως να τις κανουμε, αλλα ας περιμενουμε πρωτα να δουμε τον αριθμο που θα προκυψει και μετα(δεν ειμαι αρνητικος).

Οποτε μη μου λετε παραμυθια αγαπητε The Prof οτι η συζητηση ειναι καλη και να μην λυπαμαι εγω και ο nortrom, και επικεντρωνεστε στο ζητημα του αν προκυψει μεγαλος αριθμος παικτων, ενω το μεγαλυτερο μερος της συζητησης αναφερεται σε αλλαγες σχετικα με τους κανονες και μαλιστα απαιτητικα(κατα την γνωμη μου).

Ειχα αποφασισει να μην σας απαντησω αλλα δεν μου αρεσει να λετε διαφορετικα πραγματα απο αυτα που συνεβησαν και να κανετε πολιτικα γυρισματα.

Λυπαμαι και δεν θελω να το συνεχισουμε.

Τελος

Δεν μπορουσα να τα διατυπωσω στην αγγλικη γλωσσα και εγραψα στην μητρικη μου.

 

 

Posted 2 days ago
Where Is Ya Flag, on 31 Jan 2014 - 04:26 AM, said:
I've to agree with the Maestro.

If you want to start brand new, start brand new..
I don't see why top players needs to be "boosted" anyway, it's not that they need it , do they?

And so what if they lose a game, in an early stage, shi happens, first of all the chance is slight low, second everyone can win of every one, that's how the game is..

I can't name a sport were a team or player who lost a final get's "boosted", than why, at Stratego you want to boost SIXTEEN!! players.

 

 

Dekaeneas-Spy

 

Δεν ειναι αυτο συζητηση για αλλαγες στους κανονες;
Τι λετε εσεις κυριε The Prof;
Ειναι καλη αυτη η συζητηση;
Oταν τους εχετε εξηγησει και εσυ και ο KARAISKAKIS(σχετικα με τους κανονες) και αυτοι επιμενουν να εφαρμοσετε τους δικους τους κανονες;
Αλλοι υποστηρικτες στην προσπαθεια σας να περασετε τους δικους σας κανονες κυριε the maestro;
Kλειστε το θεμα σας λεω ξανα.

Οσο δεν το κλεινετε το θεμα "απαιτηση αλλαγης των κανονων ΤΩΡΑ" θα εξακολουθω να μιλαω στη δικη μου γλωσσα και εξω απο τα δοντια.

14) When you sign up you acknowledge that you have read the rules and you accept them

The Tournament Committee (KARAISKAKIS, maxroelofs, The Prof, and Napoleon 1er)

Ζηταει να συμμετεχει ο Where Is Ya Flag στο champion league αλλα δεν δεχεται τους κανονες(θελει αλλαγες).
Μα αυτο ερχεται σε αντιθεση με τον κανονα 14 ο οποιος λεει οτι με την εγγραφη σας δηλωνετε οτι εχετε διαβασει τους κανονες και τους αποδεχεστε.
Αρα εχουμε τον The Maestro και τον where is Ya Flag να δηλωνουν συμμετοχη(που σημαινει θελουν να παιξουν) αλλα με αλλους κανονες τους δικους τους, μη δεχομενοι τους κανονες που ορισε η επιτροπη και η επιτροπη κανει δεκτη την συμμετοχη τους.
Μου φαινεται λιγο τρελο.
Συγνωμη φιλοι μου.

Where Is Ya Flag
Posted 4 hours ago
I want to participate.
+1 GMT, NL


#102  Solutions for First Champions League (SEPERATION OF POWERS: an open letter):

post #102 Where Is Ya Flag

Posted A day ago
Dekaeneas-Spy, on 31 Jan 2014 - 08:46 AM, said:
Jibberish talk..

English mate, If you mention someones name, make sure that person can understand what you're saying..

"when you sign up, you read the rules,  you accept them"..

Uhmz.. No, people want to participate, they don't have to agree with all rules..

Matter of fact. Rule no.2 makes no sense to me..
90% of the cheaters ain't got caught, so the chance is high a few cheaters participate on whatever account, but they just don't got caught..
Besides that, there ain't no glitches and bugs nomore (I hope), so yeah, makes no sense.


Talking about reading rules and accepting terms etc..

If people would actually read rules and terms of for example google and facebook but also the new game consoles, people would not use them..
So basicly , people just want to join the mass, and who doesn't know, doesn't care

 

#103  Solutions for First Champions League (SEPERATION OF POWERS: an open letter):

post #103

 

Dekaeneas-Spy

 

Posted A day ago
Thanks for the comment :

Dekaeneas-Spy, on 31 Jan 2014 - 08:46 AM, said:snapback.png

Jibberish talk..

I really liked your answer :  Uhmz.. No, people want to participate, they don't have to agree with all rules..
I learned to respect the rules and follow them (general,in life, game, sport, etc.).
In the jungle only there are no rules.
You do not like the rules who set by the Commission,you wanted to change some, others were overlooked, but you want to play.
Very beautiful it sounds
I understand how you think sir.   Where Is Ya Flag said:So basicly , people just want to join the mass, and who doesn't know, doesn't care.

Thank you


#104  Solutions for First Champions League (SEPERATION OF POWERS: an open letter): post #104 Dekaeneas-Spy

Posted A day ago
The Tournament Committee (KARAISKAKIS, maxroelofs, The Prof, and Napoleon 1er)

tell please the players who want to change some rules now that this can not be done at this time, for the reason that 53 people have read and agreed to play with these rules.
If you want let do in a different topic with proposals for the next tournament.
The change is certain to create confusion.

Thank you


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post #105

 

Where Is Ya Flag

Posted A day ago
Dekaeneas-Spy, on 01 Feb 2014 - 12:45 AM, said:
Thanks for the comment :

Dekaeneas-Spy, on 31 Jan 2014 - 08:46 AM, said:snapback.png

I really liked your answer :  Uhmz.. No, people want to participate, they don't have to agree with all rules..
I learned to respect the rules and follow them (general,in life, game, sport, etc.).
In the jungle only there are no rules.
You do not like the rules who set by the Commission,you wanted to change some, others were overlooked, but you want to play.
Very beautiful it sounds
I understand how you think sir.   Where Is Ya Flag said:So basicly , people just want to join the mass, and who doesn't know, doesn't care.

Thank you

Dekaeneas-Spy
 

 

Where Is Ya Flag:

I wanted to join this tournament, I respect the rules, but I don't have to agree with all of them to be the "right rules".
I wanted to change some? What are you smoking?! I havent been on for weeks, so what did I wanted to change?!

Don't let me start on man-made rules.
I bless on the people who ain't like you, if the whole world was like you, there wouldn't be any revolutions..

So I suggest you sign up for politics, ...

 

Posted 6 hours ago
Dekaeneas-Spy, on 01 Feb 2014 - 1:10 PM, said:
I think it's my right to write in any language I want.(you have done google translation and not like;Nothing is deleted).
Also i can to tell in my opinion.
My view is in this phase is to stop talking about problems. (We had the whole time to do it ago).
I said to close the issue for the good of the tournament. (Is only my opinion).
Not swore anyone (unlike other players).
Please, sir Maestro not trying to impress because you know well English.
Does not say anywhere that everybody must be written in English.

ΔΕΚΑΕΝΕΑΣ-ΚΑΤΑΣΚΟΠΟΣ
 

 

Where Is Ya Flag:

It's others people right to discuss and ask questions and come with solutions, if YOU don't like it, don't reply to it.
Messages as, these are the rules, let the commision be, we had the time, or Greek jibberish does not stop anyone from asking/discussing and seeking for an answer, besides that it doesn't add much value in the discussion..

"lets end the discussion and close the issue, commision decided".. Way to go, genius, What if European leaders would say the same about Greece?

Okay okay, this is just a game, but it has the same principles..

Let us all just be open for discussion , open for solutions.
In the end it's not about all those me myself and I guys, as you, me or the mods, it's about Stratego at Stratego.com
And wether you like it or not , both on forum and in-game we all got alot to solve and alot to learn, as it's far from perfect.
Mods and staff can't do it without us and we can't do it without mods and staff

 

#106  Solutions for First Champions League (SEPERATION OF POWERS: an open letter):

post #106

 

Dekaeneas-Spy


Posted 5 hours ago
Where Is Ya Flag, on 02 Feb 2014 - 05:54 AM, said:
It's others people right to discuss and ask questions and come with solutions, if YOU don't like it, don't reply to it.
Messages as, these are the rules, let the commision be, we had the time, or Greek jibberish does not stop anyone from asking/discussing and seeking for an answer, besides that it doesn't add much value in the discussion..

"lets end the discussion and close the issue, commision decided".. Way to go, genius, What if European leaders would say the same about Greece?

Okay okay, this is just a game, but it has the same principles..

Let us all just be open for discussion , open for solutions.
In the end it's not about all those me myself and I guys, as you, me or the mods, it's about Stratego at Stratego.com
And wether you like it or not , both on forum and in-game we all got alot to solve and alot to learn, as it's far from perfect.
Mods and staff can't do it without us and we can't do it without mods and staff

Dekaeneas-Spy:I agree that it has principles and respect the rules identified by the Commission.
I speak with arguments and not fret nor revile.
off the subject

 

 

 

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Where Is Ya Flag

Posted 4 hours ago

 

Dekaeneas-Spy, on 02 Feb 2014 - 07:14 AM, said:
I agree that it has principles and respect the rules identified by the Commission.
I speak with arguments and not fret nor revile.
off the subject

 

Where Is Ya Flag:
C'mon, if you reply, reply with something we can use..
Your replies are a waste of space.

Just because you don't know what jibberish means doesn't mean it's off the subject.

Every reply of yours is something like "I this, I that, my so" , when do you start to understand this whole discussion is not about YOU!!
So once again, If you don't got anything usefull to say, leave it.



Problem: Somehow I don't like the way things are paired..
For example, the no1 has always the "easiest" opponent.

-No 1 vs the worst person with free entrance
-No 1 vs no. 32
-No 1 vs no.8

You might aswell give this person 20 ranking points already.
Wouldn't it be much more interesting (either for the no1 player who participate and for the tournamen) to change this somehow?

As, in my opinion, this will be an ungoing cycle in future tournaments otherwise. People who really don't need to be boosted get "easy" tournaments + rankings, and people who join for fun to see where they stand in comparising to others will always have to have a "hard" time, which means there is nothing to compare in the end.

Which eventually lead to another , none saying ranking.


Another problem:
This tournament is a much more succes than any of you could dream of..
Within 3 days it was already full.. So the next 2 and half weeks will be full of subsitutes sign-ups? You just gonna dissapoint any person who want to participate but was simply not online during these 3 days and not belong to the top 16?
Or are you guys gonna step your game up and try to make it a bigger tournament?

[Dekaeneas-Spy]

Where Is Ya Flag:

 

C'mon, if you reply, reply with something we can use..
Your replies are a waste of space.

Just because you don't know what jibberish means doesn't mean it's off the subject.

Every reply of yours is something like "I this, I that, my so" , when do you start to understand this whole discussion is not about YOU!!
So once again, If you don't got anything usefull to say, leave it.



Problem: Somehow I don't like the way things are paired..
For example, the no1 has always the "easiest" opponent.

-No 1 vs the worst person with free entrance
-No 1 vs no. 32
-No 1 vs no.8

You might aswell give this person 20 ranking points already.
Wouldn't it be much more interesting (either for the no1 player who participate and for the tournamen) to change this somehow?

As, in my opinion, this will be an ungoing cycle in future tournaments otherwise. People who really don't need to be boosted get "easy" tournaments + rankings, and people who join for fun to see where they stand in comparising to others will always have to have a "hard" time, which means there is nothing to compare in the end.

Which eventually lead to another , none saying ranking.


Another problem:
This tournament is a much more succes than any of you could dream of..
Within 3 days it was already full.. So the next 2 and half weeks will be full of subsitutes sign-ups? You just gonna dissapoint any person who want to participate but was simply not online during these 3 days and not belong to the top 16?
Or are you guys gonna step your game up and try to make it a bigger tournament?

 

Dekaeneas-Spy:

 

My answer is that I agree with the following

 

Champions League Tournament

This event is open to all players ranked Bronze Captain or better and is designed for 48 participants.  The sign-up period is from January 28 to February 18.  Games will begin the first week of March, and the tournament will last about three months.  Of those who sign-up, the top 16 ranked players, as shown on the leaderboard on February 19 at 17:00 GMT will be granted entrance into the tournament, regardless of when they sign-up.  The remaining 32 players who were first to sign-up will fill out the rest of tournament field.   Players who participated in any previous tournament who did not show up for their game or give any notice of their absence will be admitted to the tournament only if there is space available after all others who want to play have been signed in.  In the event that a player drops out before the start of game play, the tournament committee will replace him/her with the next player on the sign-up list.

The Qualifying Stage:  The top 16 players automatically qualify to the group stage.  The other 32 players will play a best two out of three series to determine who will advance to the group stage.  They will be seeded by ranking, and the pairings will be #1 vs. #32, #2 vs. #31, #3 vs. #30, and so on.  A player wins the series by winning two games, or by winning one game and tying two games.  If after three games each player has one win, one loss, and one draw, an additional game will be played until a winner is determined.

The Group Stage:  The 16 top players and 16 qualifiers will be divided in 8 groups by ranking as follows:

Group A: #1, #16, #17, #32
Group B: #2, #15, #18, #31
Group C: #3, #14, #19, #30
Group D: #4, #13, #20, #29
Group E: #5, #12, #21, #28
Group F: #6, #11, #22, #27
Group G: #7, #10, #23, #26
Group H: #8, #9, #24, #25

Each player will play two games against each of the other three members of his/her group.  A win is worth 3 points, a tie is worth 1 point, and a loss is 0 points.  After each player has completed the six games, the two players with the most points advance to the Round of 16.  If there is a tie, then the advantage will go to the player(s) who have performed better against those they are tie with.  If the tie is still not broken, then the advantage will go to the player with the better ranking at the conclusion of group play.  Ties between first and second place in the group will be decided in the same manner.

The group stage is divided into two rounds of three weeks each.  In each round, players will compete once against each of the other three members of the group.   The second game against each opponent must wait until the second round, otherwise it will not count.  Players should post their availability and arrange the time of their games as soon as possible in the first week of the three week period.  If any games are not played by the third week, the committee will schedule the game at a time during both players' stated availability.  If one player does not show up to play at this time then the win will be given to his/her opponent.  A member of the TC will be there to verify whether players are present.

The Round of 16:  Each player who was first place in his/her group will be matched randomly with a player who was second place in a different group.  Match-ups for this round and all following rounds are single elimination.  In the event of a draw, another game will be played until a winner is decided.

The Quarterfinals:  The 8 players who have advanced will be paired according to their ranking in the following way:  #1 vs. #8, #2 vs. #7, and so on.

The Semifinals:  The 4 players who have advanced will be paired according to their ranking in the following way:  #1 vs. #4 and #2 vs. #3

The Finals & 3rd place game:  The semi-final winners compete for the championship, while the losers play for 3rd place.

Tournament Ranking Points: Participants can earn tournament ranking points depending on how well they do in this event.  These points will be used for determining priority for entry into future championship league tournaments.  Seeding in these future events will also be based on tournament rankings, that is the number of tournament points earned, and those without tournament points will be seeded after them according to their ranking on the regular leader board.

 

 1 point for participation
 2 points for qualifying to the group stage
 3 points for each group stage win
 1 point for each group stage tie
 6 points for making the final 8
 9 points for making the final 4
 9 points for finishing in 3rd place
12 points for being in the finals
15 points for winning the Championship

Points are cumulative; the winner can earn a maximum of 63 points by winning all of his/her games.  Any player who is disqualified or does not complete all of his/her prescribed games and is judged by the tournament committee to be at fault for not getting a game played will lose ALL accumulated tournament points, and will receive negative 1 point for each unplayed game.  For example, this could be the consequence if a player does not post his availability, or who arranges a game and then does not show up or give a reason for his/her absence.  In future tournaments, players with negative tournament points may be given lower priority for admission than players with 0 tournament points.

[Dekaeneas-Spy]

Once more the moderators want to delete my post
(THE MAESTRO told them to do so).I had a different point of view. Congratulations!!!

 

It's my fault who I deal and spend precious time from my life to help in something I love too (STRATEGO). But although I am 39 years old not learned yet the life well.Do not worry gentlemen will not i bother you again.

 

For my part I thank the moderators who do not delete but have moved in my own topic.

 

Will participate in all tournaments, i will beplaying games with everyone but I cease to take a position in the forum.
(Dekaeneas-Spy is off).

[KARAISKAKIS]

Dekaeneas-Spy is not off.

You Chris are a pure lover of Stratego and a fair  and very active member of our community.
You are a person who respect the rules and don't try destroy or create mess in something good before it begins.

Dekaeneas-Spy is on now and in future.

Our community needs guys like you.

That's an order, soldier!

[Where Is Ya Flag]

Do not worry gentlemen will not i bother you again.

(Dekaeneas-Spy is off).

 

Finally!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Uhmz, No! We all know and can see your passion for Stratego, the last thing a person like you should do, is step back..

BUT, when some persons got issues on certain things going on, with the somelikely the same passion for the game, as you have, give them a chance to discuss about it. If you don't like the discussion, let it be..

 

In the end, we all "fight" for the same cause. Which is a better site, and FUN FOR EVERYONE. Not just me, not just you, not just the top players and not just the newbies..

 

"prevention is better than cure" is the lesson we should 've learned from 2013, I guess.

[Napoleon 1er]

Thank you for your spontaneous answer Where is ya flag. Dekaenas spy shall absolutely not step back. He is a very active and passionated stratego player and his opinions belong absolutely to our forum (although they have to be posted in the right forum). I would be really disappointed if he steps back.

As Karaiskakis said we are trying to build up a "stratego community" on this website and the only thing you need to belong to it is passion for that game. We have people from the whole world playing our favorite game here, people from many different countries, languages, cultures, we have supply chain specialists, lawyers, hip hop music fans, students, firemen, football players, mountain guides, doctors, 12-16 years old children,  retired people,  engineers, The Prof , Jesus Christ, Satan-NL, and many others. It is not obvious and not easy to understand all this differences but if we agree that the only thing that really matters on this website is a demonstrated passion for stratego game then we are on the right track, and you, dekaenas spy, me and many others belong to that community.

Your last post above shows that you understand all this, maybe in the future (and this is only a proposal from me) when you have a forum discussion with somebody not coming from the same area and background like you, maybe you could try to use a more relaxed tone in your posts. What seems to be a little detail for you may be perceived as a big offense by somebody else. I'm born in Argentina, grew up in Germany, France and Switzerland and travelled to 40-50 countries in the whole world and I can ensure that even though the human beeing is everywhere sharing the same perception for what is good and what is bad, sometimes an issue considered as a really minor one by a given culture can be perceived as very aggressive by an other, you just have to accept that the world is like that and that it has such differences. This is precisely what makes it fantastic.

 

I hope to having given you a humble opinion.

 

Napoleon 1er