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Poll: did WTC 7 collapse due to a controlled demolition? (22 member(s) have cast votes)

did WTC 7 collapse due to a controlled demolition?

  1. yes, it was a controlled demolition (11 votes [50.00%] - View)

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  2. no, there was no controlled demolition (11 votes [50.00%] - View)

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#101 The Prof

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 05:25 PM

The best prediction model in my opinion, and the only one I really paid close attention to, is Nate Silver's fivethirtyeight.com.  He had Trump at about a 30% chance of winning, quite a bit higher than any other prediction outfit or betting market.  The main difference with his model is that it accounts for the fact that if there is a polling error in one state, then it is likely that other states (especially similar ones geographically or demographically)  will have a similar polling error and in the same direction.  This is what we saw in the midwestern states with Trump significantly outperforming his poll numbers there.  Outcomes in states are not independent of each other, yet I saw on television supposedly intelligent analysts making this ridiculous assumption (like Sam Wang of the Princeton Election Consortium) and saying that Hillary had an over 99% chance of winning.



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Posted 22 November 2016 - 10:17 AM

I was more surprised by Raghavan Mayur who has it right for decades now.

 

But ofcourse I applaud most on the USC/LA Times poll with the Dutch professor. Our Arie Kapteyn : http://www.latimes.c...1109-story.html

 

The fun part with both of them was they couldn't believe the findings of their models ;). So they actually thought logically Clinton would win. Never listen to logic, TheProf.


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Posted 15 December 2016 - 08:08 PM

I didn't vote in this poll because I don't know. America treated it like a false flag regardless, launching wars all over the place. Bush distracted by Saddam. Hillary-Libya. Obama-Assad. All these things made ISIS stronger. Why? Saudi Arabia and Israel hegemony in the region.

 

If Assad is still in power come January, does Hillary have to give Israel and Saudi Arabia a refund?

 

Another question is what were the dancing Israeli "art students" doing on 9/11?



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Posted 20 February 2017 - 11:11 AM

Just if you fancy wearing your aluhead today: http://www.europhysi...n2016474p21.pdf


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Posted 10 March 2017 - 05:17 PM

Just if you fancy wearing your aluhead today: http://www.europhysi...n2016474p21.pdf


Lo, it doesn't match the "aluhead" comment to show us solid scientific information by very credentialed persons speaking against the mainstream storyline of 9/11. The guys in your article aren't kooks. They don't otherwise believe in crazy unprovable conspiracy theories like Bigfoot, or aliens on earth, or reptiles who have transmuted themselves into human form. No, these chaps are all very sensible and affiliated with universities.
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Posted 28 April 2017 - 07:23 PM

9/11 Destroyed America

http://www.paulcraig...troyed-america/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 01:52 PM

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 02:16 AM

Had to break the tie with my vote :)
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 12:55 PM

Had to break the tie with my vote :)

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:26 PM

I can't believe that 10 out of 22 people who voted actually believe that 9/11 was Americans' own doing.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:33 PM

Anyone who investigates Building 7 with an open mind is likely to come to the conclusion that it was a controlled demolition. However that doesn't mean that American government is involved in a conspiracy. Building 77 contained many government agencies, it was potentially demolished as a safeguard. Maybe other government buildings are pre-wired to be taken down in the event of compromise. It was fully evacuated.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:35 PM

I can't believe that 10 out of 22 people who voted actually believe that 9/11 was Americans' own doing.

Roughly the same percentage of the US believes in creationism.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:38 PM

Anyone who investigates Building 7 with an open mind is likely to come to the conclusion that it was a controlled demolition. However that doesn't mean that American government is involved in a conspiracy. Building 77 contained many government agencies, it was potentially demolished as a safeguard. Maybe other government buildings are pre-wired to be taken down in the event of compromise. It was fully evacuated.

Who would be willing to kill 3,000 people apart from fanatical jihadists?


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:45 PM

Who would be willing to kill 3,000 people apart from fanatical jihadists?

I believe that there are people who would do that for financial gain. I just do not believe that the magnitude of the resulting cover-up would be containable.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:46 PM

I just do not believe that the magnitude of the resulting cover-up would be containable.

Yeah, I agree with that.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:46 PM

You are misreading my post. Building 7 was a separate building on the World Trade Center complex that also collapsed despite not being hit by a plane - no-one was killed.

NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology) stated that the building collapsed due to office fire, but there is much evidence e to suggest otherwise, such as eyewitness reports and films, the testimony of thousands of architects, engineers and demolition experts (see 9/11 Truth movement) - but most compellingly the admission by NSA that the entire building went into free fall for 2.5 seconds (indicating that there was no resistance).

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:54 PM

You are misreading my post. Building 7 was a separate building on the World Trade Center complex that also collapsed despite not being hit by a plane - no-one was killed.

The NSA stated that the building collapsed due to office fire, but there is much evidence e to suggest otherwise, such as eyewitness reports and films, the testimony of thousands of architects, engineers and demolition experts (see 9/11 Truth movement) - but most compellingly the admission by NSA that the entire building went into free fall for 2.5 seconds (indicating that there was no resistance).

Ok, this is much more realistic to believe. How come the building was completely empty?


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 07:57 PM

They evacuated it first. Presumably because someone knew it was coming down.

Many news agencies (including the BBC) also reported the collapse of the building before it happened. There are various videos of this on the Internet - I'll try and find one.

Here you go:

https://www.youtube....h?v=677i43QfYpQ

By the way, the official cause of the collapse of Building 7 according to the NIST is 'office fire'. It does't take much digging or expertise to realise that this is extremely untrue.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:02 PM

Why such an effort to cover up a demolition?


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:08 PM

Why such an effort to cover up a demolition?

 

This question is why many believe there is a conspiracy. If you accept that the building was pre-wired before 9/11 (it wouldn't have been possible to co-ordinate a demolition of that scale as a response to the attack), then you might come to the conclusion that Building 7's demolition was timed to occur on the same day that the Towers fell. Failing that you might conclude that Building 7 was pre-wired for some other purpose (self-destruct in the event of a building being compromised). If you pick the second conclusion, then the government might have to justify why one of their buildings was (and perhaps others are - as we speak) wired with explosives. This concession would be a huge security risk for these other buildings. 

 

Another strange decision was that the government omitted the collapse of Building 7 entirely in the official 9/11 report.






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