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#41 strangeplayer

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 11:32 PM

GaryLShelton,

I personally would not pay for online Stratego. If there are free alternatives I would choose that rather than pay for a subscription. I believe there is also a competing Stratego site called Gravon however I have never been there.

It is indeed a difficult problem solving the issue of multiple accounts. Every proposed solution is not without its caveats.

When I play Chess, there is a similar but unrelated problem of users setting up aliases and using a very powerful Chess engine to calculate all of their moves. Online Chess developers later designed a heuristics based system which would track window switches, time in each move, style of moves played and strength of moves played to determine if one is cheating at Chess. I do not know how well the situation at Chess corresponds to Stratego so therefore I am unsure how well a behavioral analysis system would work on this site, but it is an interesting thought.
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#42 QueenofHearts

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 11:49 PM

How many times must we go round and round only to realize that admins have no control, polls are meaningless and the only way to make this game responsive to the players is an owner who gives a damn. That is not Jumbo or Keesing and any of the artists. The more eyeballs they get the more they generate in ad revenue. No one wants to pay taxes either. Free music, Free movies, Free books. "Don't tax me, don't tax thee, tax the man behind the tree." 

 

Ranking means nothing. The tournaments are what count. They are the only thing the players can control.


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#43 GaryLShelton

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 11:59 PM

Ranking means nothing. The tournaments are what count. They are the only thing the players can control.


Queen, I'll mildly disagree. The tournaments are great, sure. Winners there cannot be disputed. But though the regular rankings here aren't perfect, for my level they're okay. No one's scouting me and my setups with second accounts to cheat me with and I can pretty much play for fun anytime I want. I can see the relative progress I'm making through the current rankings well enough for me.

Maybe I'll maybe have a different answer when I'm higher.

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Posted 20 February 2016 - 06:46 PM

For me, this is a valuable thread. Also, if some of the claims are true, then I am disappointed in some players active on the forum that have played me without declaring their true identities. These are also players who would have known that they had played me before. 

 

I don't have any aliases except for Flageater, which I only use for quick games and haven't used in a long while. I also used it on a tablet for a week or so just using random setups on the normal game with every player to see how I would do with random setups. I don't think the ranking went above 300, so I wasn't playing high ranked players with that account.



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Posted 20 February 2016 - 06:53 PM

Here's my list, compiled from the previous forum that Napoleon referred to and updated with info from this forum. Where there are question marks, people weren't sure, but assumed (although it doesn't mean that everyone else is 100% correct either). Those that say no second accounts are self declared.

 

Annemarie 1984, Anna 1984

Astros, Hmmmmmm

AwesomePerson14, Just520, astralopithecus

Cannan, Lake Sturgeon

Casamentero, Montana

Chewtoy, Don Wanderley, Aube2010

Constrictor, GentleBen

Dekaenas-Spy, ODHGOS, Olympos, Dartagnian

Does1947, Does?

Dr_ELL_SuPREME, eLL, LLYCCOS

Dutchkillers, Razorblade, Tansifer, Man-on-Fire, Warrior_Duke

Fairway, Atomitaco, Goodluck!

Gary L Shelton, GLS FireworksMan, Tournament #1GLS

Gkaros, Knigos

Guldin, Master G, A99, Crazy Lover?

Hardrain_Lenny, No second accounts

Hielco, Dreamcrusher999

IcanMakeULose, MaskedFighter

IcanMakeYouFamous, TheeAssassin

Iwin!, ResignIwin!?

jensneuij, jens14

Karaiskakis, Quickkiller, Jack67bd, General Adams

Kernel Mustard, bmende

kwstas27  , Grigoris21

Leppie, No second accounts

Lolecho, The Zorro

Losermaker, URlosingpieces

Maribo, No second accounts

MasterYodaa, MasterYoda, M.Y.2.0, Oda Nobunaga

MaxRoelofs, Decreaser, Gladiatoras, Focus, ~Unbeatabl3~

midnightguy, WhiteKnight, Spy vs Spy, Justanoob, Captain Freedom, Dont Glitch Me

Moghadien, Rahvin, Lanfear

Moriarty, Hotstreak2015, Caesar101

Mroldman, MRBRAINIAC

Naiktapa, greek character for N, Marshal 2003, Marshal 2004

Napoleon 1er, Apocalypse

Niceratio, MasterPrestige

Ntactical, Ntactical-Reboot

Oliver Queen, I am Loser?, Play65?

Papillon, sirgeicoad

Sadistic, No second accounts

Sekertzis, Makedonas-Hellas

Sevenseas, Crystallise, gyrados

Sgt. Blkdog, wft6789

Shoogie, Flachland Tirole

Sohal, Cosinus, Sinus

Spyros77, Godfather76

TexasPete09, Instinct

Thasunke Witko, WileEPirate

The Prof, No second accounts

TheKing63, TheKing.ASB?

Thesoma, dlink?

Trickz, Darou, Yuckfou, Kabal, Nightwolf303

UKdevilz, No second accounts

Vanir, Vanir44, Lululalala

Vishengel27, Thomas507, thomasgeelhoed

Yangus, John Collasky


Edited by josephwhite, 20 February 2016 - 08:00 PM.

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#46 josephwhite

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Posted 20 February 2016 - 07:04 PM

Also, here's a list of suspected alias accounts. These are accounts with at least 500 rating (with 2 exceptions) that had quite a low number of games played. I didn't record the number of games, but unless many of these players recently migrated from another site, they are probably aliases. It would be interesting if anyone could shed some light on them. Note that I recognise that some may have come from other sites and be new to Stratego.com and there is also the possibility that some just picked the game up quite quickly, so it is not an accusation.

 

Name/Rating when played

Sai Bet/296

SwissCheese/445

PhatMan/511

IIILLLIIIIILLLLL/522

UdiSaac/535

Nancy B/589

!`_/ (plus other misc characters)/590

KomandoRando/600

SteveReno/610

B.Statter/618

Marcel Janssen/621

Ego-Strat-Ego/623

Ope/629

Whoops/631

BiggieKunFt/634

CumminAlot/644

ShadyMilkMan/644

Dotoko/645

Greek=+-Marshal/650

Ernie McCracken/656

Panday/664

IronShield/679

Stomspel/680

Cryptic/684

Strate123/691

Laughing/701

General,of=Greek/713

Dr.Atheist/720

Einollaw/745

Rinse&Repeat/747

Draakje/750

Iag69/750

Teodor8/753

Cheater Pounder/753

Insanewarrior/767

Plutonious/767

Einstein Nr. 1/769

Jbond/774

Sjappie/778

SpyGames/781

Crappy/783

Bullshark/797

Afriktrip/797

Greg29/800

Ace 68/822

Petros1980L/943

 

The following are on the Clean Ranking list, but had low games played with high ranking when I first played them. I'm pretty sure that Bajoshua had just migrated from Gravon, but I'm not sure about the others (possibly something similar).

 

GrizzlyBaer, Mimis69, Bajoshua, Overlord_98


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#47 sevenseas

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Posted 20 February 2016 - 07:19 PM

Some notes and corrections for you josephwhite :)

 

-Sadistic is Burly Ben, and possibly also Deron06 (not confirmed, but I strongly believe that to be the case judging by playstyle)

-Ace68 is a legitimate player (not an alias) and is very good at this game. 

-Laughing is the cheating israeli. Watch out for him and always change your setups so he can't lotto you.

-Einollaw and Monk Akapu are also John Collaky alts. 

 

I confirm the second accounts listed for me but I only play as sevenseas now. 


I play as Sevenseas & Don't Cry

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Posted 20 February 2016 - 07:22 PM

@ Joseph White

 

You must have meant Don Wanderley, not Don Wanderer. 


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Posted 20 February 2016 - 08:01 PM

Thanks for the notes Sevenseas. Chewtoy, I corrected the name.


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Posted 20 February 2016 - 09:08 PM

bajoshua is from gravon, and so is Grizzlybaer.



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Posted 20 February 2016 - 09:19 PM

MESSI2005 and ATROMHTOS are accounts of my son.



#52 Dekaeneas-Spy

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Posted 20 February 2016 - 09:43 PM

Very good work.

 

For accounts from Greece i will give you second accounts that i "think".

 

 

 

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Posted 20 February 2016 - 09:45 PM

Hunter77 is also ,Undericover


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Posted 20 February 2016 - 09:56 PM

Hunter77 is also ,Undericaver

 

UNDERICOVER :)


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Posted 20 February 2016 - 10:03 PM

Second accounts other players

 

PETROVIZ

bane7

MARSHAL2003

MARSHAL2004

CONQUERD-GR

KANIS

MACEDONIA-IS-1GR

ΠΑΙΚΤΑΡΑ

GENERAL+FROM+GR

THE BLACK MAMBA

GREEK=+-MARSHAL

PANATHA77

WCHAMPION

STRATARXIS.GR

ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΑΣ

ΤΗΕ SOMA

ΠΑΟΚ


Edited by Dekaeneas-Spy, 21 February 2016 - 01:23 PM.


#56 sevenseas

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Posted 21 February 2016 - 03:01 AM

black mamba is the shaman


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Posted 21 February 2016 - 07:27 AM

Second accounts

 

PETROVIZ

bane7

MARSHAL2003

MARSHAL2004

CONQUERD-GR

KANIS

MACEDONIA-IS-1GR

ΠΑΙΚΤΑΡΑ

GENERAL+FROM+GR

THE BLACK MAMBA

GREEK=+-MARSHAL

PANATHA77

WCHAMPION

STRATARXIS.GR

ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΑΣ

ΤΗΕ SOMA

ΠΑΟΚ

You're petroviz? I got matched with you in ranked a few days ago.


I have no idea what that thing under my avatar is. I've always liked stickers

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Posted 21 February 2016 - 07:44 AM

mine is just HotStreak. Not HotStreak2015. You can see I have a mediocre (compared to good players) percentage (85) on it.

 

One thing is, what if a player would rather keep a double account secret? For example Sadistic did not want to admit he was Burly Ben (terrible example, yes I know) , so would it be bad sportsmanship to put it on?

 

Just curious


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#59 Napoleon 1er

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Posted 21 February 2016 - 11:50 AM

Second accounts

 

PETROVIZ

bane7

MARSHAL2003

MARSHAL2004

CONQUERD-GR

KANIS

MACEDONIA-IS-1GR

ΠΑΙΚΤΑΡΑ

GENERAL+FROM+GR

THE BLACK MAMBA

GREEK=+-MARSHAL

PANATHA77

WCHAMPION

STRATARXIS.GR

ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΑΣ

ΤΗΕ SOMA

ΠΑΟΚ

do you mean these are all your second accounts?


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Posted 21 February 2016 - 01:00 PM

Here's my list, compiled from the previous forum that Napoleon referred to and updated with info from this forum. Where there are question marks, people weren't sure, but assumed (although it doesn't mean that everyone else is 100% correct either). Those that say no second accounts are self declared.

 

Annemarie 1984, Anna 1984

Astros, Hmmmmmm

AwesomePerson14, Just520, astralopithecus

Cannan, Lake Sturgeon

Casamentero, Montana

Chewtoy, Don Wanderley, Aube2010

Constrictor, GentleBen

Dekaenas-Spy, ODHGOS, Olympos, Dartagnian

Does1947, Does?

Dr_ELL_SuPREME, eLL, LLYCCOS

Dutchkillers, Razorblade, Tansifer, Man-on-Fire, Warrior_Duke

Fairway, Atomitaco, Goodluck!

Gary L Shelton, GLS FireworksMan, Tournament #1GLS

Gkaros, Knigos

Guldin, Master G, A99, Crazy Lover?

Hardrain_Lenny, No second accounts

Hielco, Dreamcrusher999

IcanMakeULose, MaskedFighter

IcanMakeYouFamous, TheeAssassin

Iwin!, ResignIwin!?

jensneuij, jens14

Karaiskakis, Quickkiller, Jack67bd, General Adams

Kernel Mustard, bmende

kwstas27  , Grigoris21

Leppie, No second accounts

Lolecho, The Zorro

Losermaker, URlosingpieces

Maribo, No second accounts

MasterYodaa, MasterYoda, M.Y.2.0, Oda Nobunaga

MaxRoelofs, Decreaser, Gladiatoras, Focus, ~Unbeatabl3~

midnightguy, WhiteKnight, Spy vs Spy, Justanoob, Captain Freedom, Dont Glitch Me

Moghadien, Rahvin, Lanfear

Moriarty, Hotstreak2015, Caesar101

Mroldman, MRBRAINIAC

Naiktapa, greek character for N, Marshal 2003, Marshal 2004

Napoleon 1er, Apocalypse

Niceratio, MasterPrestige

Ntactical, Ntactical-Reboot

Oliver Queen, I am Loser?, Play65?

Papillon, sirgeicoad

Sadistic, No second accounts

Sekertzis, Makedonas-Hellas

Sevenseas, Crystallise, gyrados

Sgt. Blkdog, wft6789

Shoogie, Flachland Tirole

Sohal, Cosinus, Sinus

Spyros77, Godfather76

TexasPete09, Instinct

Thasunke Witko, WileEPirate

The Prof, No second accounts

TheKing63, TheKing.ASB?

Thesoma, dlink?

Trickz, Darou, Yuckfou, Kabal, Nightwolf303

UKdevilz, No second accounts

Vanir, Vanir44, Lululalala

Vishengel27, Thomas507, thomasgeelhoed

Yangus, John Collasky

Sadistic=BurlyBen


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