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#641 Nortrom

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Posted 26 December 2019 - 04:46 PM

Hi, I would like to open a case against UKboy : https://imgur.com/a/pHSQLZB

 

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The screenshots aren't in chronological order, can you provide us with video, just before your opponent lost his second major?


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Posted 26 December 2019 - 08:33 PM

The screenshots aren't in chronological order, can you provide us with video, just before your opponent lost his second major?

 

Here you go : https://youtu.be/RUJahRUoTsY


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Posted 27 December 2019 - 12:44 AM

Reporting Commandeur, I had a huge lead, he decided to shuffle, I took guesses until we were even. Then I requested a tie and told him he had ten minutes. After ten minutes he refused a tie again. So I ended the game. 

 

https://imgur.com/a/RqdiE4D First draw refusal 

https://imgur.com/a/djSQV1K Second draw refusal

https://imgur.com/a/3nzyLVm Defeat screen



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Posted 27 December 2019 - 06:07 PM

Reporting Commandeur, I had a huge lead, he decided to shuffle, I took guesses until we were even. Then I requested a tie and told him he had ten minutes. After ten minutes he refused a tie again. So I ended the game. 

 

https://imgur.com/a/RqdiE4D First draw refusal 

https://imgur.com/a/djSQV1K Second draw refusal

https://imgur.com/a/3nzyLVm Defeat screen

 

Case will be opened; if you have any better screenshots, those would be helpful. The Refusal screens seem to be blocking important parts of the screen.


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Posted 27 December 2019 - 08:11 PM

Hi, another one against norikz : https://imgur.com/a/r9IVcmA

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Your opponent will have 113 points deducted and you will get 13 points back


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Posted 27 December 2019 - 08:15 PM

Hi, case against lechach : https://imgur.com/a/CqM6TYL

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YOu will receive 13 points back while lechach will have 113 points deducted


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Posted 28 December 2019 - 05:43 AM

Case will be opened; if you have any better screenshots, those would be helpful. The Refusal screens seem to be blocking important parts of the screen.

 

Reporting Commandeur, I had a huge lead, he decided to shuffle, I took guesses until we were even. Then I requested a tie and told him he had ten minutes. After ten minutes he refused a tie again. So I ended the game. 

 

https://imgur.com/a/RqdiE4D First draw refusal 

https://imgur.com/a/djSQV1K Second draw refusal

https://imgur.com/a/3nzyLVm Defeat screen

 

 

MT decides this as a NO CASE. This is because the opponent's miner is about the take your flag and win the game as the final draw refusal screen and defeat screen cover the opponent's miner. Do not bring cases like this to MT.


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Posted 29 December 2019 - 12:24 AM

Hi, I would like to open a case against UKboy : https://imgur.com/a/pHSQLZB

 

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UKboy will have 113 points deducted and be sent a warning letter, your account garlick will also have 13 points restored.



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Posted 29 December 2019 - 06:11 PM

  https://ibb.co/pjVWsQ5

 

 

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Hello and Merry Christmas!I asked 3 times for a draw and he didnt accept..He continue playing with no reason..Please let me know when you ban him.. And you have to give a solution at this especially 10vs 10 To have a button if the game take time more that 1o min no capture a piece its a draw..

 

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Posted 30 December 2019 - 11:24 AM

User PSN wouldnt draw or move his 9's. I asked him to tie twice and he just keeps moving back and forth. Just wasting time. 

 

How do I upload screenshots from my pictures on my computer?



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Posted 30 December 2019 - 04:41 PM

User PSN wouldnt draw or move his 9's. I asked him to tie twice and he just keeps moving back and forth. Just wasting time. 

 

How do I upload screenshots from my pictures on my computer?

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Posted 31 December 2019 - 12:56 AM

Reporting IamGroot90 for draw refusal, time abuse, time wasting and not being nice in chat.

He started with not nice chat.

Than he takes all his 20 seconds a move from the beginning.

He did nothing after a few moves , only moving one piece, I offered draw, he refused, I warn them, and he only said he has the right to do so.

I offerde draw again, he refused, warned him again, and then I resigned.

 

I also think he has more accounts, he is a gold marshall with high win ratio and 254 games.

 

Start of the game , he is not nice in chat

 

https://imgur.com/xtBILAG

 

taking al his 20 seconds a move

 

https://imgur.com/gahbPkz

 

https://imgur.com/7Su60fn

 

First draw refusal

 

https://imgur.com/MJL2C4F

keeps on taking 20 seconds a move

 

https://imgur.com/7R1PrvA

 

https://imgur.com/6tsay47

 

first warning

 

https://imgur.com/tH1D6LG

 

keeps on 20 seconds a move

 

https://imgur.com/0UPZ86e

 

chat

https://imgur.com/nEeZsqU

 

Last warning

 

https://imgur.com/KWjFBtB

 

Second draw refuse

 

https://imgur.com/GreO1Ul

 

taking 20 sec a move

 

https://imgur.com/rO36hcD

 

Defeat screen

 

https://imgur.com/IpXyY8B

Sorry for the long delay, but we had a lot of points to discuss. 

 

In the end, the MT has found guilty of Draw refusal and Abusive Time Wasting. He will have 163 points deducted while you will be restored 13 points


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Posted 31 December 2019 - 10:09 AM

Sorry for the long delay, but we had a lot of points to discuss. 
 
In the end, the MT has found guilty of Draw refusal and Abusive Time Wasting. He will have 163 points deducted while you will be restored 13 points


No problem, I understand that case was a bit complicated.
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Posted 31 December 2019 - 10:42 AM

In the end, the MT has found guilty of Draw refusal and Abusive Time Wasting. He will have 163 points deducted while you will be restored 13 points

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Draw Refusal Rules, specifically, can be read here: http://forum.strateg...931#entry468931

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Posted 31 December 2019 - 11:06 AM

MT decides this as a NO CASE. This is because the opponent's miner is about the take your flag and win the game as the final draw refusal screen and defeat screen cover the opponent's miner. Do not bring cases like this to MT.

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Just curious here. Is there evidence of this action of the miner if we can't see it? It is hidden, yes, but how is it determined the miner is heading to the flag instead of the sergeant/bomb setup in the J column? And if that can't be determined, can it be assumed against the plaintiff?

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Posted 31 December 2019 - 01:26 PM

We determined the miner to be within the squares of the draw refusal pop-up which means the opponent could have very well be on his way.

The screenshots do not prove needless hesitation. For all we know, the plaintiff may even have chased the miner in a square to defend.

Either way,indecisiveness has not been proven, thus we did not agree with this being an illegal DR case
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Posted 31 December 2019 - 03:55 PM

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Just curious here. Is there evidence of this action of the miner if we can't see it? It is hidden, yes, but how is it determined the miner is heading to the flag instead of the sergeant/bomb setup in the J column? And if that can't be determined, can it be assumed against the plaintiff?

Good question, but the location of the miner is very easy to determine.

 

On this first screenshot, take a note at the location of the piece on H9.    https://imgur.com/a/RqdiE4D

Then on the second screenshot, note how that piece is gone, but no additions to the screen visible anywhere: we must conclude the piece is hidden by the refusal screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/djSQV1K

 

And, if the miner was instead heading to the sergeant's cluster, then not only would that be an incredible idiotic opponent, but also, why would nonobadork ask for a draw?


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Posted 31 December 2019 - 05:42 PM

Good question, but the location of the miner is very easy to determine.

 

On this first screenshot, take a note at the location of the piece on H9.    https://imgur.com/a/RqdiE4D

Then on the second screenshot, note how that piece is gone, but no additions to the screen visible anywhere: we must conclude the piece is hidden by the refusal screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/djSQV1K

 

And, if the miner was instead heading to the sergeant's cluster, then not only would that be an incredible idiotic opponent, but also, why would nonobadork ask for a draw?

 

Thank you.    A followup comment.   I do think it's a question whether the miner was heading to the flag or the other place, as you say, but I don't think either direction is provable, that one is stupid and the other not, without a video to accurately analyze the game.  Nor do I think it is provable that nonobadork had any bad intentions in snapping his screenshot when he did.  One doesn't normally think about the location of the pieces being under the message box when he requests a draw, I would think it an honest mistake of nonobadork first in lieu of proof to the contrary.   And as he did honor the full 10 minutes gold standard with no progress in between, per the existing rules, I would incorporate this potential exception to the rules for evidence in draw refusal cases.  


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#659 Palucky Luke

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Posted 31 December 2019 - 06:52 PM

Hi , i want to report player MICHAEL.MCKILLIP for draw refusion. I sent him 3 times request for draw and didn t accept it. I want my points back because after one hour i left the game because i was bored. I have evidence video screen.



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Posted 31 December 2019 - 07:20 PM

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