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#61 GaryLShelton

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Posted 07 May 2019 - 08:25 AM

Reporting soldersnake1 for draw refusal and for double chasing. His only movable pieces were a marshal and a general.  I had 2 lieutenants, 1 sergeant and 2 miners.  My flag was bombed, and so apparently was his. Two of my pieces advanced on flanks, where they were blocked by the marshal and general that were alternating back and forth to circumvent the two-square rule. He did so for ten minutes after he refused a draw that I proposed. He then refused the second draw and continued double chasing. The screenshots are here:
 
https://drive.google..._W8Rty5MDEnFk5D
 
The timestamps are printed at the bottom right corner. I do not have the screenshot of the second draw refusal, but at least the double chasing is clear and unequivocal. 
 
Please restore 12 points, deduct 100 points from soldersnake1 and put him on the list of the violators.

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SQA, apologies for the delay. This case fell through the cracks.

I have moved your post to this reporting topic from the draw refusal one because that claim fails immediately without a second refusal screenshot, whereas your other claim for double chasing might be upheld, though I must state that you have not technically shown double chasing at your first screenshot at 10:50.

In that screenshot there is separation of the pieces and chasing requires adjacency, even in the ISF rules. At the end 12 minutes later, at 11:02, we can see the adjacency, true, but one screenshot does not make two separated by the needed 5 minutes. Nevertheless, the long duration (1:11) of your game attests to your complaint so we'll see.

A case will be opened for double chasing here.


As an aside comment it would be nice to hear a platinum player's approach to this situation from your perspective. How would they have played it out?

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Posted 10 May 2019 - 07:35 PM

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SQA, apologies for the delay. This case fell through the cracks.

I have moved your post to this reporting topic from the draw refusal one because that claim fails immediately without a second refusal screenshot, whereas your other claim for double chasing might be upheld, though I must state that you have not technically shown double chasing at your first screenshot at 10:50.

In that screenshot there is separation of the pieces and chasing requires adjacency, even in the ISF rules. At the end 12 minutes later, at 11:02, we can see the adjacency, true, but one screenshot does not make two separated by the needed 5 minutes. Nevertheless, the long duration (1:11) of your game attests to your complaint so we'll see.

A case will be opened for double chasing here.


As an aside comment it would be nice to hear a platinum player's approach to this situation from your perspective. How would they have played it out?

 

GaryLShelton, thank you for moving my post to here. It was my oversight that I did not take the screenshot of the second draw refusal, so I agree that the draw refusal claim should be dismissed due to insufficient evidence.

 

As to the double chasing, I understand what you are saying about the adjacency. I think I still can make the case on the theory of res ipsa loquitur. The screenshots show that (1) my opponent had only two movable pieces left: marshal and general; (2) for more than ten minutes these two pieces did not allow any other piece to be moved except the miner that moved from J1 to H2. The only way to achieve this is through double chasing. There is simply no other possibility.


Edited by SQA, 10 May 2019 - 07:37 PM.


#63 GaryLShelton

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Posted 11 May 2019 - 03:54 PM

Reporting soldersnake1 for draw refusal and for double chasing. His only movable pieces were a marshal and a general.  I had 2 lieutenants, 1 sergeant and 2 miners.  My flag was bombed, and so apparently was his. Two of my pieces advanced on flanks, where they were blocked by the marshal and general that were alternating back and forth to circumvent the two-square rule. He did so for ten minutes after he refused a draw that I proposed. He then refused the second draw and continued double chasing. The screenshots are here:

 

https://drive.google..._W8Rty5MDEnFk5D

 

The timestamps are printed at the bottom right corner. I do not have the screenshot of the second draw refusal, but at least the double chasing is clear and unequivocal. 

 

Please restore 12 points, deduct 100 points from soldersnake1 and put him on the list of the violators.

 

On the charge of refusing a draw there is not enough evidence.  

On the charge of double chasing the MT votes guilty of a 1st degree offense.  soldersnake1 will have 25 points deducted from his rating and he will receive a 1st degree warning letter.  Player SQA will have 25 points added to his rating.  Pending admin action, of course.



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Posted 28 May 2019 - 02:24 PM

double shacing amani https://imgur.com/a/hIG4D44 here i give up after 8 min of double shacing

 

i whant my 13 pionts back and 12 pionts win also 

 

here is the movie i made to back up https://www.youtube....h?v=gLSSIXQ6bq8


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Posted 29 May 2019 - 03:21 PM

double shacing amani https://imgur.com/a/hIG4D44 here i give up after 8 min of double shacing

 

i whant my 13 pionts back and 12 pionts win also 

 

here is the movie i made to back up https://www.youtube....h?v=gLSSIXQ6bq8

Case opened.


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Posted 01 June 2019 - 12:47 AM

double shacing amani https://imgur.com/a/hIG4D44 here i give up after 8 min of double shacing

 

i whant my 13 pionts back and 12 pionts win also 

 

here is the movie i made to back up https://www.youtube....h?v=gLSSIXQ6bq8

You will receive 25 points back and amani has been sent a warning letter and deducted 25 points.


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#67 Napoleon 1er

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Posted 08 June 2019 - 11:07 AM

reporting oerlikon for double chase. His major is chasing my cap and his col is chasing my miner. His spy is in F9, he has a moved piece next to my marsh in D7 and bombs in A7 E7 D8 C8 and C10

https://youtu.be/sIV6plp_5_A.

 

i got matched with him in a ranked which i won, then he invited me as friend and for a challenge right afterwards. The game you see above is the so called "friendly game" ... even if the end was not so friendly., so no need to reward me any points.


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#68 UnladenSwallow

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Posted 08 June 2019 - 12:00 PM

reporting oerlikon for double chase. His major is chasing my cap and his col is chasing my miner. His spy is in F9, he has a moved piece next to my marsh in D7 and bombs in A7 E7 D8 C8 and C10
https://youtu.be/sIV6plp_5_A.
 
i got matched with him in a ranked which i won, then he invited me as friend and for a challenge right afterwards. The game you see above is the so called "friendly game" ... even if the end was not so friendly., so no need to reward me any points.


Why cant you just give up your miner

 

far from a win either way, better than forcing a stalemate, no?


Edited by UnladenSwallow, 08 June 2019 - 07:05 PM.


#69 GaryLShelton

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Posted 09 June 2019 - 05:29 AM

reporting oerlikon for double chase. His major is chasing my cap and his col is chasing my miner. His spy is in F9, he has a moved piece next to my marsh in D7 and bombs in A7 E7 D8 C8 and C10

https://youtu.be/sIV6plp_5_A.

 

i got matched with him in a ranked which i won, then he invited me as friend and for a challenge right afterwards. The game you see above is the so called "friendly game" ... even if the end was not so friendly., so no need to reward me any points.

 

A case will be opened. 



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#70 Napoleon 1er

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Posted 12 June 2019 - 05:06 PM

any news about the case?


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Posted 12 June 2019 - 05:13 PM

Your cat hasn't been in the tree long enough.


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Posted 13 June 2019 - 12:51 AM

reporting oerlikon for double chase. His major is chasing my cap and his col is chasing my miner. His spy is in F9, he has a moved piece next to my marsh in D7 and bombs in A7 E7 D8 C8 and C10

https://youtu.be/sIV6plp_5_A.

 

i got matched with him in a ranked which i won, then he invited me as friend and for a challenge right afterwards. The game you see above is the so called "friendly game" ... even if the end was not so friendly., so no need to reward me any points.

Sorry for the long wait, didn't see this one slip to the bottom of the case list  :). oerlikon will be sent a double/multiple chasing letter, but no points adjustment as it was a friendly game.


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#73 roeczak

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Posted 16 June 2019 - 04:58 PM

Fullattack double chase https://youtu.be/YJeQQ5SDZrA


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#74 GaryLShelton

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Posted 17 June 2019 - 07:05 AM

Fullattack double chase https://youtu.be/YJeQQ5SDZrA

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A case will be opened.

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#75 Losermaker

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Posted 20 June 2019 - 10:33 AM

Fullattack double chase https://youtu.be/YJeQQ5SDZrA

Fullattack will have 13 points deducted and 13 will be restored to roeczak.


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#76 Verti_GO

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Posted 01 July 2019 - 06:15 PM

Reporting user pitogyros for double chasing

https://imgur.com/a/VYZqP9E



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Posted 03 July 2019 - 12:21 AM

Reporting user pitogyros for double chasing

https://imgur.com/a/VYZqP9E

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#78 Yellowhat

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 08:08 AM

Reporting user pitogyros for double chasing

https://imgur.com/a/VYZqP9E

 

Pending admin action, player PITOGYROS will have 25 points deducted from his rating and he will receive a warning letter. 25 points will be restored to jnz.


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#79 Major Nelson

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Posted 03 July 2019 - 11:56 AM

Pending admin action, player PITOGYROS will have 25 points deducted from his rating and he will receive a warning letter.

That's too bad, he has a very nice name. :(
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Posted 07 July 2019 - 08:46 PM

Reporting Lunchbox1:

 

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