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#41 don mitsos

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 03:54 PM

Why would it be a non-starter? I don't claim any points, i just want him to be punished for something he did which is forbidden. During our game it is obvious he knew about this rule but he does not recognize it. 

In other words you have a player who knows about the rule ( which was MT made) and chooses to ignore it, showing with this behavior a lacks of respect to his opponent and to the MT and the rules MT applies. 

 

So are you sure you want to reward this kind of behavior?

 

The video is at MT's disposal, just tell me how to send it.



#42 GaryLShelton

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Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:21 PM

Why would it be a non-starter?

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You're a bit late to the conversation, don mitsos, but better later than never. I've copied your question over to the discussion thread for comments on this matter of the double chasing enforcement. Here: http://forum.strateg...rch-2019/page-4

You can post the video link in this thread for reporting purposes. I'm not a video person so don't know the answer to your video issues. Maybe someone else who does can respond.

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#43 dutchkillers

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 03:24 PM

i like to report bddtech for double chasing and what my 19 pionts back 

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=fDVdRVCs1bc


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#44 GaryLShelton

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 05:16 PM

i like to report bddtech for double chasing and what my 19 pionts back

https://www.youtube....h?v=fDVdRVCs1bc

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dutchkillers, this is not double chasing but counter chasing. Each of you was at fault here. Each of you was chasing the other and each of you could have ended the impasse if you chose to. It matters not who starts a counter chase. Both are chasing.

In a double chase only one player is chasing.

Counter chasing is perfectly legal in an ISF game live as well.

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#45 don mitsos

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 06:27 PM

Why would it be a non-starter? I don't claim any points, i just want him to be punished for something he did which is forbidden. During our game it is obvious he knew about this rule but he does not recognize it. 

In other words you have a player who knows about the rule ( which was MT made) and chooses to ignore it, showing with this behavior a lacks of respect to his opponent and to the MT and the rules MT applies. 

 

So are you sure you want to reward this kind of behavior?

 

The video is at MT's disposal, just tell me how to send it.

 

Ok here is the video

 https://youtu.be/cGzOdfKWTPA


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#46 R u Mocking Me ?

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 06:43 PM

Ok here is the video

 https://youtu.be/cGzOdfKWTPA

It shows up as ---Video unavailable ,may want to double check that you have it posted as PUBLIC viewing ! Gl with case Don M


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#47 don mitsos

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 07:43 PM

Fixed it, i think it is ok know



#48 dutchkillers

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Posted 13 April 2019 - 11:14 PM

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dutchkillers, this is not double chasing but counter chasing. Each of you was at fault here. Each of you was chasing the other and each of you could have ended the impasse if you chose to. It matters not who starts a counter chase. Both are chasing.

In a double chase only one player is chasing.

Counter chasing is perfectly legal in an ISF game live as well.

bud what if no ones stops then ?


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#49 GaryLShelton

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Posted 14 April 2019 - 08:03 AM

bud what if no ones stops then ?

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Then no one stops. There's no way to prevent two persons from doing what you and he did if both are stubborn about it.

These things don't have to be so close to each other either. If you attack on the right and your opponent counters with an attack on the left, it's always your choice to give up that piece and take his, or to move your piece to safety followed by him doing the same. Then, whether the chase/counter chase sequence continues is another choice, no matter where on the board the two confrontations exist.

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#50 GaryLShelton

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Posted 14 April 2019 - 08:26 AM

Ok here is the video
[/size]https://youtu.be/cGzOdfKWTPA

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We'll open a case. What the existing rule says is that this is a no case, but by my count you were clear of the threshold on both time and moves so we'll see. Thanks for reporting it. It should be a very important case.

For the record you are reporting player F-12 for double chasing, though you won the game.

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Posted 17 April 2019 - 06:41 PM

https://youtu.be/8-c3SudZhWc

 

Report of my own.

 

Trickz/bluevelvet knows the rules but does not comply, even after I tell him. Goes on for about 18 mins in this video and 25 or so altogether. 

 

I did not surrender, I accepted a tie, but would still like 13 points returned to me (as I should have gained 12 for the win, but instead lost one from the tie)


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#52 R u Mocking Me ?

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Posted 17 April 2019 - 07:36 PM

https://youtu.be/8-c3SudZhWc

 

Report of my own.

 

Trickz/bluevelvet knows the rules but does not comply, even after I tell him. Goes on for about 18 mins in this video and 25 or so altogether. 

 

I did not surrender, I accepted a tie, but would still like 13 points returned to me (as I should have gained 12 for the win, but instead lost one from the tie)

I liked Trickz stating "end of discussion" then going forward in his continued chat.It Would truly be a first if he did end discussion !  ;)



#53 UnladenSwallow

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Posted 17 April 2019 - 07:57 PM

"I ain't no fokkin nerd" lol


Edited by UnladenSwallow, 17 April 2019 - 07:58 PM.

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#54 GaryLShelton

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Posted 17 April 2019 - 11:50 PM

https://youtu.be/8-c3SudZhWc
 
Report of my own.
 
Trickz/bluevelvet knows the rules but does not comply, even after I tell him. Goes on for about 18 mins in this video and 25 or so altogether. 
 
I did not surrender, I accepted a tie, but would still like 13 points returned to me (as I should have gained 12 for the win, but instead lost one from the tie)

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A case will be opened, though it must be stated that I didn't see any double chasing going on until the 9:25 mark or so. I counted 40 moves of it before quitting the exercise.

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#55 TheOptician

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Posted 22 April 2019 - 03:09 PM

Report for Double Chase - Lottorush

10 minutes of alternating pieces threatening one after the another. No other piece moved.

https://imgur.com/LDjBMDg
https://imgur.com/Lc0Fi1n
https://i.imgur.com/ha32VV0.jpg


Just reminding MT of my pending case from Mar-11. (Apologies if I missed the verdict)

#56 GaryLShelton

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Posted 23 April 2019 - 10:04 PM

Just reminding MT of my pending case from Mar-11. (Apologies if I missed the verdict)

 

You opened a big can of peas, TheO.  ;) 

 

But we're closing in on this and a new rule announcement based off of it, hopefully.


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Posted 24 April 2019 - 02:26 PM

Report for Double Chase - Lottorush
 
10 minutes of alternating pieces threatening one after the another. No other piece moved.
 
https://imgur.com/LDjBMDg
https://imgur.com/Lc0Fi1n
https://i.imgur.com/ha32VV0.jpg

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The MT has voted guilty on Lottorush for this offense. He will have 13 points deducted from his rating and 13 points will be restored to TheOptician also. In addition, Lottorush will receive a 1st degree warning letter for double chasing from admins.

In so deciding the MT will be issuing a new rule announcement on this matter soon.
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#58 TheOptician

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Posted 24 April 2019 - 03:14 PM

A great verdict.

However as I am 134 points higher now than at the time of the report, you might want to consider proposing the following adjustment regarding points - only where current ELO is greater than ELO at the time of the report.

13 minus (difference between Current ELO and ELO at time of report/25)

I want to hit 1000 honourably so would prefer to only receive 7 points as opposed to 13.

I appreciate that is extra fairly pointless maths work for MT, so understand if you don’t go for it.

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Posted 26 April 2019 - 07:28 PM

Reporting soldersnake1 for draw refusal and for double chasing. His only movable pieces were a marshal and a general.  I had 2 lieutenants, 1 sergeant and 2 miners.  My flag was bombed, and so apparently was his. Two of my pieces advanced on flanks, where they were blocked by the marshal and general that were alternating back and forth to circumvent the two-square rule. He did so for ten minutes after he refused a draw that I proposed. He then refused the second draw and continued double chasing. The screenshots are here:

 

https://drive.google..._W8Rty5MDEnFk5D

 

The timestamps are printed at the bottom right corner. I do not have the screenshot of the second draw refusal, but at least the double chasing is clear and unequivocal. 

 

Please restore 12 points, deduct 100 points from soldersnake1 and put him on the list of the violators.


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#60 GaryLShelton

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Posted 02 May 2019 - 02:53 AM

Ok here is the video
 https://youtu.be/cGzOdfKWTPA

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Pending admin action player F-12 will receive a warning letter for 1st degree double/multiple chasing in an April game against don mitsos, who won the game.
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