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#1 GaryLShelton

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 12:27 AM

12 MONTH REDEMPTION POLICY

Beginning immediately, the MT will start hearing appeals by anyone permanently banned. This is for both players or forum members.

The GS&FR language being adjusted for this new provision is Article 1.8. The new language will be:

1.8 Permanent Bans, Permanent Forum Bans, and Flaggings: A permanent ban refers to a ban from the entire site. That is, from the game and forum both. A permanent forum ban or flagging refer to a ban from the forum only. Any such action shall require the vote of at least four moderators, or two-thirds of the Moderator Team should there be more than eight current members. Tie votes will result in no decision and no MT action.

2019 Update: While the above bans were originally intended to be never-ending, in order to give a chance for persons to redeem themselves through good behavior or actions, the MT will now hear appeals for reinstatement 12 months after the conviction date for any player or forum member who has been permanently banned, permanently forum banned, or flagged. The success of any appeal will be determined both on the basis of the behavior of the person or member during the time of his ban, and also the nature and severity of his original offense(s). In the case of flagging, reinstatement will require any existing forum aliases to be flagged. Not everyone will be approved.

If anyone wishes to be considered for this appeal, he may pm any of the moderators and we will open up a mod chat discussion on his situation. Those accounts that are approved will be restored as soon as the MT decision to do so is fulfilled by admins. Those that are not approved will have to wait another year to apply again. Only one matching game/forum alias combination per person will be restored under this Article.

Three moderator votes, or 50% + 1 of the votes if there are more than five current moderators, will be required for approval of reinstatement.



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#2 Napoleon 1er

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Posted 03 December 2018 - 12:26 PM

Just a practical questuon: how can permanently banned player ask for redemption?... As they are banned they don't have access to forum or game side, so how are they supposed to get informed of this new rule and how can they contact MT?
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Posted 03 December 2018 - 01:03 PM

You can still view the forum without being logged in.

 

Whatever method is most practical I guess. This may vary per person. "If there is a will, there is a way".


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#4 GaryLShelton

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Posted 05 December 2018 - 02:34 AM

It could be that this new opportunity is only known by those who will get PB'd henceforth. That's one answer, Napoleon 1er. The other is that with the alias issue the way it is, our new policy will more help to bring PB'd players out of the shadows and back into the open fold of the community.

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Posted 01 January 2019 - 08:05 PM

Did MT members have any individuals in mind for redemption ?

 

Without some relaxation of the rules it is hard to see which permanently banned players could return. Most of them still play on other names and still do the things that got them banned in the first place.

 

Virtually all of the PB'd players were pure trolls that made no good contribution to offset their offences. Even with the exceptions it's hard to see how they can return.

 

Trickz was fairly well liked and made a good contribution to the forum. He was banned for abusive chat in games where he was losing. He will never stop doing that. Personally I am never bothered by his behaviour and I've had a lot of good games with him. But some people of course see no reason why they should tolerate his chats, so unless they were to be seen as acceptable there is no prospect of his coming out of the shadows as you can hardly have a player banned from the game posting on here.

 

I think Tony Law was banned recently. I felt he was an OK guy but would respond with insults against players who insulted him. I think if provocation is likely then leniency should be an option.

 

Sadistic was a player who joined 2014 and as far as I know still plays either under that name or some other. He was permanently banned from the forum though a few months after his arrival. I thought his forum persona and posts were mostly entertaining and witty, though a few did cross some lines of course. It seems he was PB'd ultimately because his posts were not acceptable to a 'child friendly' site. Personally I am not sure the site should have the aim of filtering every post that might confuse an 8 year old. If Stratego is to be seen as anything more than a children's game then I think some allowances should be made for forum posts of a more grown up nature. So I would allow Sadistic back on the forum, while perhaps hiding only extreme posts, as opposed to banning him forever.


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#6 GaryLShelton

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Posted 01 January 2019 - 08:24 PM

The only one considered thus far has been 7up. He's the only one who's made the request to the MT anyway. Then he disappeared again so nothing changed really.

Sadistic was always memorable with his girl in every port schtick. His style was in your face and so when he offended, he offended strongly when he crossed the line. He would be considered for reinstatement if he applied to us, though.

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#7 GaryLShelton

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Posted 08 February 2019 - 01:09 AM

Due to his continued good behavior, and in accordance with our new rule on 12 month redemptions (see here: http://forum.strateg...emption-policy/), the forum member mogul , better known, perhaps, as 7up or Walhall, will have all forum privileges restored to him and restrictions lifted.

Note that this applies to the mogul account only. All other aliases of his, including 7up and Walhall,
will be banned from the forum in accordance with our new rule on no forum aliases, though they will all be able to play games on the game side of the site.

For the record, his accounts which will be forum-banned only, include the following:

TheLastMiner
imperium
MarshalHitBomb
Walhall
GeneralPlatinski
Eiger
7up

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#8 GaryLShelton

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 01:36 AM

Because of his request and his behavior exhibited since his banning, the MT has voted to request reinstatement for Gwynplaine. Although it will be immediately flagged, the account will be able to play games again, pending admin action.

Edited by GaryLShelton, 09 February 2019 - 06:11 AM.


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#9 KissMyCookie

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Posted 07 March 2019 - 07:51 AM

To the MT–

 

mogul has been given a second chance with a reinstatement of their forum account, but this post that mogul has made is extremely problematic:

 

http://forum.strateg...elton/?p=472943

 

1) It is a defamation of another player's reputation–moguls statements are libelous.

2) It is a blatant accusation with no foundation.

3) There is no evidence to support this claim.

4) It is very much like yelling "FIRE" in a crowded theater.

 

The statements are designed strictly to create trouble, and this in itself, shows little to no remorse for previous bad behavior on the part of mogul. I am not convinced that mogul has learned their lesson about behaving well in this forum community. The statement about astros having created an account and presenting himself as a kid with Asperger's Syndrome goes to the very heart of one of many reasons why mogul was banned–because of mogul's incessant and vicious anti-semitic attacks upon the former forum member Zuriels, the young lad (with Asperger's Syndrome) left this site and gameside permanently.

 

I would like the MT to address this matter, to decide upon a course of action, and then to publish their verdict, please.

 

Thank you.


Edited by KissMyCookie, 19 March 2019 - 05:41 PM.


#10 GaryLShelton

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Posted 19 March 2019 - 04:44 PM

The post of mogul in question has been hidden a few days ago pending further investigation of the incident. A modchat case has been opened a few days ago as well.

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