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#1 Yellowhat

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Posted 20 September 2018 - 06:56 PM

Some time ago, I wanted to know what kind of setups the great player 'Computer-medium' uses. I played 20 games and scouted the setups. Here they come...

 

Setup 1

https://pasteboard.co/HENikMP.png

 

Other setups will follow.

 

 

Oh, I forgot to say that I am a professional setup scouter now, so watch out....


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Posted 20 September 2018 - 07:01 PM

Setup 2:

 

https://pasteboard.co/HENlm97.png


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Posted 20 September 2018 - 07:15 PM

Setup 3:

 

https://pasteboard.co/HENr5t3.png

 

Edit: I2 should be a major. 


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Posted 30 October 2018 - 07:45 PM

Setup 4:

 

https://pasteboard.co/HKSShjO.png


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Posted 30 October 2018 - 07:50 PM

Setup 5:

 

https://pasteboard.co/HKSU3R5.png


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Posted 06 November 2018 - 09:45 AM

Some almost look random :).


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Posted 07 November 2018 - 06:43 PM

Today I played with a random setup against Heroic Battle on my phone. I got a 5-bomb triangle with my flag + gen + a major inside. I managed to guide one of his miners to open up a bomb to let my gen out and managed to win. Pathetic AI.
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Posted 21 November 2018 - 06:28 PM

Fun game on my phone, while also watching TV. I hit the 5 with my marshal. So the rest of the game I hit piece after piece that Probe sent near my marshal, thinking how crazy that was. Until at the very end I discovered that I hadn't hit the S but a 5 :) 


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Posted 21 November 2018 - 08:13 PM

I don't see how a "top" AI will ever be able to beat a "top" human player. 


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Posted 21 November 2018 - 10:26 PM

I don't see how a "top" AI will ever be able to beat a "top" human player.


If AlphaGo, Libratus Poker and OpenAI Dota have taught us anything, it is that all games can be conquered by computers, just a matter of resources. It took a few hundred open source go/chess enthusiasts less than a year to replicate DeepMind’s multi-million pioneer efforts.
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Posted 22 November 2018 - 02:22 PM

If AlphaGo, Libratus Poker and OpenAI Dota have taught us anything, it is that all games can be conquered by computers, just a matter of resources. It took a few hundred open source go/chess enthusiasts less than a year to replicate DeepMind’s multi-million pioneer efforts.

Stratego is very intuitive based.
I'm not sure how a AI would calculate positions but I assume it will be based off odds which let's you "bluff the crap out of them" :)
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Posted 22 November 2018 - 02:39 PM

Indeed, your motto would be near and dear to a computer. The algorithm all poker bots use is counter factual regret minimization (CFR). Most of the links you find are mathematical. Here’s one intuititive explanation without math by one of its inventors: https://www.quora.co...et-minimization

CFR will automatically learn to bluff and slowplay as you play more and more games. The main difference with poker is that you also have to let a bot search over piece movements on the board. For chess/Go this is a well-trodden area. Combining board search with CFR is highly non-trivial, and not yet solved, AFAIK.
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Posted 26 March 2019 - 06:31 AM

Another fault of the computer-medium is that the HmmNess chasing rule is not programmed in there as in the regular game.

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Posted 27 March 2019 - 04:26 AM

 I believe that the computer does not have the setups of a human player because it is simply a computer. The website should make it more realistic. Once, my marshal captured the Computer's general. It made a different move and I attacked the piece next to its general and found out that it was the enemy spy. Computers are not perfect, and I believe that we are lucky to get this free site to play Stratego on, regardless of the computer's intelligence.


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Posted 27 March 2019 - 12:58 PM

Thanks for the reminder guys, I gotta continue with this thread  :)


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Posted 27 March 2019 - 01:03 PM

Setup 6:

 

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Posted 27 March 2019 - 01:08 PM

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Posted 28 March 2019 - 02:13 AM

I do agree that the computer does play bad. However, we should not complain about it, considering all that the website has done for us.


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