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#1 GaryLShelton

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Posted 21 August 2018 - 02:49 AM

The MT is officially opening this new reporting topic as a place to make your NEW complaints of disconnection and abusive time wasting. In this topic the MT will hear your complaints and we will respond back in this same topic as we do with cases of draw refusal or abuse. The old unofficial topic ("...Hall of Shame") will be locked for at least the period of a THREE MONTH TRIAL (from August 20th to November 20th) beginning immediately. At the end of the trial period we will assess the rules of this enforcement for permanent status.

Please note all the rules concerning evidence for the acceptance of complaints by the MT. You can see those in the policy topic here: http://forum.strateg...141#entry460141

One particular note of interest for disconnection victims is that in this new enforcement we are requiring a victory screen in addition to the disconnect box screen. Read the full rules at the above link for details.

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The complete GS&F Rules can be found here: http://forum.strateg...rum-rules-2016/

Draw Refusal Rules, specifically, can be read here: http://forum.strateg...604#entry339604


#2 Indiana Knights

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Posted 21 August 2018 - 06:47 PM

BIRDPERSON90 was losing. Blew up their Colonel and then immediately disconnected. 

 

https://imgur.com/a/BfpnFoE

https://imgur.com/a/2nuEPY7


Edited by Indiana Knights, 23 August 2018 - 02:51 PM.


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Posted 21 August 2018 - 07:07 PM

THE ABC immediately disconnects after I take a risk and stab his known General with my Marshal. Hmm I'm guessing the Spy was nowhere to be found. 

 

https://imgur.com/a/ZsHXua5

https://imgur.com/a/JCD9ypa



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Posted 21 August 2018 - 07:35 PM

I'd be willing to bet a few battle coins it was somewhere to be found. :)

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Posted 21 August 2018 - 08:05 PM

Before starting to lose the game, everything was fine and that suddenly...
 
this is how he put me intentionally on wait https://imgur.com/a/xjqicfC
 
after that disconnection https://imgur.com/a/A7qd1vw
 
this is how he try to connect again https://imgur.com/a/892EFti
 
and put me on wait again!!! https://imgur.com/a/Yzl51B5
 
again disconnection https://imgur.com/a/eoHiV3c
 
 
 
MODERATOR NOTE:  This complaint is about player BartDD.

Edited by GaryLShelton, 24 August 2018 - 01:05 AM.
Add defendant name.


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Posted 22 August 2018 - 09:08 PM

Player "Correct" Disconnect

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 09:21 PM

Did you not read what is required to report a disconnect? lol

 

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Posted 22 August 2018 - 11:08 PM

I would like to file a case with the MT, please.

 

1) This is the accused, brentzzz:

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2) His was the first move and already, you may observe here that he let his buffer run down to 4 min. 20 sec…. and a move has not yet been made–he goes first. It is 22:46 local time.

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3) He finally makes his first move after his buffer has run down to 3’ 53”

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4) Refer to the graveyard–I have taken his marshal and his general. His buffer is down to 59 seconds, and he has been taking more than 15 seconds per move. It is now 23:14.

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5) With brentzzz’s buffer down to 7 seconds, and having played for 32 minutes, he disconnects after wasting all of this time. It is now 23:18.

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6) It is 23:20, and the disconnect message reaches the 1 minute mark…no return from this player.

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7) Disconnect buffer reaches 0:00–it is confirmed…he did not return after an intentional disconnect.

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8) The Victory screen shows for the record his poor performance in the game, but worse than that, his abuse of the buffer, letting it run down to 7 seconds, and then disconnecting is an egregious breach of “Good Sportsmanship.”

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I would like the MT to request that brentzzz have 50 points removed from his ELO ranking, and that a letter of warning be sent to this player.

 

Thank you very much. If the MT feels that this is not enough evidence to support my argument, about buffer abuse precisely, I will try to locate video evidence if requested, but I do believe that this is sufficient evidence.

 

KMC


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Posted 22 August 2018 - 11:39 PM

http://www.imagebam....bc28dc953437274

 

http://www.imagebam....d173a8953437294

 

Reporting "THE INTRUDER" 


Edited by texaspete09, 23 August 2018 - 08:20 AM.

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Posted 23 August 2018 - 06:27 AM

Cases will be opened for all of the above reports.


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Posted 23 August 2018 - 06:39 AM

Note: Please put timestamps on the screenshots (System tray clock/time) And if putting the person's name in the report, names are capital sensitive. "nortrom" would not be the same as "Nortrom".


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Posted 23 August 2018 - 08:23 AM

Why are timestamps necessary in my case? We see that the player disconnected after blowing up his marshal, then we see in the victory screen that the player has left the game, and the standings and position have not changed. If you need the timestamps then just scrap the case, I'm too lazy to fix the screenshots for a disconnect.


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Posted 23 August 2018 - 08:40 AM

For d/c it's less important. For time wasting due to buffer abuse it's quite handy.
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Posted 23 August 2018 - 11:55 AM

I would like to file a case with the MT, please.
 
1) This is the accused, brentzzz:
bdmkd9r.jpg
 
 
2) His was the first move and already, you may observe here that he let his buffer run down to 4 min. 20 sec…. and a move has not yet been made–he goes first. It is 22:46 local time.
0Tfr6D2.jpg
 
 
3) He finally makes his first move after his buffer has run down to 3’ 53”
55vNOCF.jpg
 
 
4) Refer to the graveyard–I have taken his marshal and his general. His buffer is down to 59 seconds, and he has been taking more than 15 seconds per move. It is now 23:14.
Ngyn3Vw.jpg
 
 
5) With brentzzz’s buffer down to 7 seconds, and having played for 32 minutes, he disconnects after wasting all of this time. It is now 23:18.
hjyirbO.jpg
 
 
6) It is 23:20, and the disconnect message reaches the 1 minute mark…no return from this player.
pbLHeYQ.jpg
 
 
7) Disconnect buffer reaches 0:00–it is confirmed…he did not return after an intentional disconnect.
cKEXCsB.jpg
 
 
8) The Victory screen shows for the record his poor performance in the game, but worse than that, his abuse of the buffer, letting it run down to 7 seconds, and then disconnecting is an egregious breach of “Good Sportsmanship.”
lo2bTgc.jpg
 
 
I would like the MT to request that brentzzz have 50 points removed from his ELO ranking, and that a letter of warning be sent to this player.
 
Thank you very much. If the MT feels that this is not enough evidence to support my argument, about buffer abuse precisely, I will try to locate video evidence if requested, but I do believe that this is sufficient evidence.
 
KMC


From a pure mathematic point of view it is not possible that he used 15 seconds per move. With 626 total moves in the game 50% for your opponent means 313 moves, at 15 seconds each means 4695 seconds or 78 minutes only for him. This is much more the the effective 28 minutes of the total game duration which includes also your moving time, after exclusion of his buffer time.
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Posted 23 August 2018 - 12:50 PM

From a pure mathematic point of view it is not possible that he used 15 seconds per move. With 626 total moves in the game 50% for your opponent means 313 moves, at 15 seconds each means 4695 seconds or 78 minutes only for him. This is much more the the effective 28 minutes of the total game duration which includes also your moving time, after exclusion of his buffer time.

 

Are you suggesting that I am exaggerating, or even lying about my match against this reprobate, Daniel?



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Posted 23 August 2018 - 01:35 PM

I could be wrong Daniel but I dont think KMC implied he took 15 secs every move, just more than good sportsmanship allows for.

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Posted 23 August 2018 - 02:50 PM

DC LORD pulls the disconnect not once not twice but three times. Also ran his clock all the way down just out of spite. A very bad loser indeed.  You can see in the various disconnects his clock is down to just 12 seconds on the last one. 

https://imgur.com/a/27pe3Rl

https://imgur.com/a/NBDCjn7

https://imgur.com/a/3SHdZOH

https://imgur.com/a/1yM73Wt



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Posted 23 August 2018 - 02:52 PM

Note: Please put timestamps on the screenshots (System tray clock/time) And if putting the person's name in the report, names are capital sensitive. "nortrom" would not be the same as "Nortrom".

I put all players names in all caps because that is how they are written in the game. Should I not do that? 



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Posted 23 August 2018 - 04:55 PM

Are you suggesting that I am exaggerating, or even lying about my match against this reprobate, Daniel?


What i say is that the 15 seconds per move is not evidenced and also not likely, so the mention of it is unusefuly amplifying the case with a wrong statement. For the rest the obviously intentional disconnect seems clear while the buffer abuse is subject to evaluation. I would not consider a loss of 1.07 minute before first move as abusive. Often when somebody takes long time to prepare setup the ready opponent is doing something else or a phone call while waiting. So this could be considered non abusive. For the decrease of buffer from 3.53 to 0.59 during the game this is de facto allowed and happens frequently eith players who need long time to decide what to move. Then the buffer time decrease from 0.59 to 0.07 after the last move and before the disconnect yes i agree this can be considered abuse. Good thing would be to define how many seconds of buffer time decrease are considerable for abuse and what is acceptable. 52 seconds is probably to much but less than 15 seconds is certainly acceptable.
Just my personal view of the case.
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#20 KissMyCookie

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Posted 23 August 2018 - 05:13 PM

And I was explaining that he was taking 15 seconds for moves, not every single one, but he had intentionally sllloooooowwwwwwweeeeedddddd down his gameplay in an effort to express his frustration and to try to upset me.

 

Here is a link with video evidence for the last 6-7 minutes of gameplay:

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=5kAVT3jTfVI

 

In the last six minutes of the match, up to his disconnect, a total of 42 moves were made–if we take your mathematical concept, which only works if BOTH players are using up the same number of seconds as their opponent, then that means 8.5 seconds were needed by both brentzzz and me to cover the six plus minutes. *(It is irrelevant in this context because you assume that he was making a move with the same pace as I was…not true).

 

The video was engaged as a method of documentation just after I took his last colonel.

 

In all fairness, I do understand your concern about the practical matter of numbers–seconds and minutes which directly pertain to the game. I also understand your concept of applying fundamental statistical analysis to this case, but you are using a biased criteria to arrive at your conclusion, and in the process, it is against my claim and my case, which I resent, Daniel. Even if you are merely playing the Devil’s Advocate, which is your right, you are not with all of the facts in hand.

 

I’m wondering how many other cases you will attempt to dismantle before the MT even gets their hands on them. From my point of view, I am glad that you are not judging this case–of course, you may very well be in that position later on this year.

 

P.S. Irrelevant of my claim, this video clearly illustrates buffer abuse...the game is lost, he knows it, but he wants to be a jerk. Oh yeah...would you like a couple of BattleChats, one where he calls me a "♥♥♥♥♥," Daniel?


Edited by KissMyCookie, 23 August 2018 - 05:14 PM.





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