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#1 Nortrom

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Posted A week ago

Nutshell version: the MT is going to start judging clear draws with 5 minutes of evidence instead of 10.

Full version: The MT will conduct a test trial for the next three months to see how a new policy on clear draws fares in public sentiment. The reason for the trial is that the MT has voted to begin allowing for less evidence in draw refusal cases where the draw is clear. Previously we have held to the same 10 minute gold standard for all draws. But now, for the test trial period at least, we will allow clear draw cases to be presented with a 5 minute gold standard. That is, if a player refuses a draw request and the draw is clear then two system draw refusals 5 minutes apart will make for a STRONG case and likely be upheld by the MT.


A clear draw is defined as a draw where neither player can capture his opponent's flag or all of his pieces in the absence of a gross mistake. A player refusing a clear draw will be expected to lotto/take a chance and try to advance the game or accept the tie within 5 minutes.


Note the following:

If no progress is made between any two or even three refusal screens covering the Gold Standard time of five minutes for clear draws (ten minutes for normal no progress draws), the MT will always view this evidence as solid proof of the guilt of the draw refuser. Anything less and we may concur with a claim, or we may not.

In accepting less than five minutes of evidence for clear draws (the same as we do for accepting less than 10 minutes for normal no progress draws) the factors that we consider will include:

•BattleChat evidence,
•the nature of the draw situation, and
•the actions of the draw refuser after a tie refusal

But nothing is guaranteed in this area. If you want to be absolutely certain the MT will uphold your clear draw case, give us five minutes of proof (ten minutes for normal no progress draws), and a defeat screen.

Please also remember that any minutes that lapse off your own buffer do not count in these "Gold Standard" times. For example, if you use three minutes of your own buffer taking screenshots or obtaining evidence, your opponent will be allowed an extra three minutes to refuse your draw request. Please also note that the times required are between refusal screens and not the defeat screen, as this can stay up on one's computer a long time after the game is over

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#2 Nortrom

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Posted A week ago

Too long didn't read: In case of a clear draw, 5 minutes will suffice. ( See post above for more details )


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#3 Jesus_saves

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Posted A week ago

Hallo MT-team, I believe I speak for most of the advanced players, that we highly appreciate this step.

 

I would encourage you to even go one step further. We all know about various bugs in the different systems making it sometimes impossible to provide a time stamp (ipad) or the graveyard (cause it disappeared). We know the people of honour on this page, So i suggest, if someone reports a draw refusal being a person of honour and for whatever reason through system failure the prove is not 100% still the verdict should be taken against the draw refusal guy if he can´t prove differently.

 

Show more grace to the one reporting than to the bad guy refusing a draw. Also considering progress like no minor left flag is hidden behind bombs. Then it is not a progress if a sergant is taken.... I believe over the time I reported 4 draw refusal and none was approved for various reaons...

 

Thank´s for all your efforts and time you invest. 

 

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Posted A week ago

"the verdict should be taken against the draw refusal guy if he can´t prove differently." 

 

There is a fundamental issue with this; the other person may not know a case will be submitted against him/her. Also, preferential treatment is not a good thing.

 

Timestamps indeed are an issue and has been suggested, we can only hope it will be followed up.

 

Progress is very much taken into consideration :). You are right that the capture of a sergeant (let's call it insignificant piece) is no progress in many cases.


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