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#1 steelers

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Posted 02 June 2018 - 12:36 PM

Astros has proposed that players should receive a yellow card if they disconnect when they are going to lose.



#2 TheOptician

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Posted 02 June 2018 - 01:04 PM

The difficulty I have with this proposal is that you cannot prove intentional disconnection, even if it occurs immediately after a game-deciding loss of a piece.

If a pattern emerges - let's say the same thing happens more than once - then you could say with more certainty that the disconnect is intentional.

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Posted 02 June 2018 - 03:09 PM

The difficulty I have with this proposal is that you cannot prove intentional disconnection, even if it occurs immediately after a game-deciding loss of a piece.


How often do you think unintentional disconnects really happen in this situation? I am fine with giving players the benefit of the doubt, but it is blatantly obvious when someone disconnects because they are mad.
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Posted 02 June 2018 - 03:44 PM

I agree with astros's 1st post here.


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Posted 02 June 2018 - 04:03 PM

I also agree. But my point is how do you know it is intentional?

 

I suppose a player who gets disconnected unintentionally would probably say so immediately afterwards.



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Posted 02 June 2018 - 04:21 PM

 I am fine with giving players the benefit of the doubt "  was part of Astros's post ;).


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#7 TheOptician

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Posted 02 June 2018 - 04:36 PM

roger.

Giving someone the benefit of the doubt would mean not assuming that the disconnect is intentional.

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Posted 02 June 2018 - 05:32 PM

roger.
Giving someone the benefit of the doubt would mean not assuming that the disconnect is intentional.


I am fine with giving the benefit of the doubt to an otherwise upstanding player who gets disconnected at a disadvantage but who has not completely lost the game.

It is a completely different situation when one's opponent has his final piece trapped, no moves left and gets disconnected. For the one in a million instances where this disconnect is unintended, the players can work it out after the game and if not tough shit make sure your computer works.
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#9 Wogomite

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Posted 02 June 2018 - 08:22 PM

I agree with all of your posts. I think TheO hit the nail on the head with his first post. The disconnect should be noted like a type of preliminary yellowcard. Consistent behavior would then turn the pre-lims into a yellow card once two or three were issued.
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#10 TheOptician

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Posted 19 July 2018 - 08:17 PM

TC has now voted on this proposal:

 

Against (4-0)

 

Some comments:

 

'I am ok with giving a Yellow Card for deliberate disconnection provided that:  There is more than one case (ie benefit of the doubt first time around)'

 

'One single disconnection shouldn't be an offence, only if there are multiple clear disconnections TC could give a warning'

 

'IMO TC should judge on a case by case basis for those things, when unsportsmanlike behaviour is clear and repeated. (If someone does repeatedly conduct such behaviour in last rounds or intentionally disconnects). They are not severe enough to issue a standard, "blind" punishment'

 

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While TC did not agree that a deliberate disconnection should earn disciplinary action, they did unanimously agree that repeated disconnection should warrant action. TC already have tournament rules in place that deal with discrimination, bad language, abusive behaviour and poor sportsmanship, so will update this area for next time.






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