There is no question that the Republic of Macedonia is in the geographic region of Macedonia. Considering the history of the area, the Slavic Macedonians have lived there for over 1,000 years. Greece did not control Macedonia at all from the mid 14th century to 1913, and the region was not fully hellenized until 1923 when the Turkish population was forcefully expatriated. In my opinion, the Slavic Macedonians have stronger ties to the region even if they have no connection to the Ancient Greek Kingdom of Macedon, from which they have appropriated parts of their history.
Your expectation about being (a bit) criticized for your certain response was right.
Many people above expressed their opinions and feelings concerning this serious issue and I find them all acceptable, in spite of disagreeing with some of them.
What I find unacceptable is calling ridiculous our refusal, as Greeks, not to recognize to the Skopjans the "right" to call themselves "Macedonians".
Personally, I think it's OK to admire someone else's history, but it is something totally different and -as I see it- unacceptable trying to make it yours by ignoring the historical truth. And from the history, we know that Macedonia was always connected with the Ancient-Greek civilization and its origins. In my opinion, the Skopjians should deal with this at some point.
Furthermore, Greek's government decision about vetoing NATO membership in 2008 was not "childish".
It was a brave one.
And it would be very nice if we could realize the difference between a nationalist behavior and a patriotic one.
And last but not least, we actually don't care about the new name of FYROM or how they should be called. That is not our own business for sure and we shouldn't be involved in this. What we do care is that the term "Macedonia" will never be included in their country's name. That's our only claim !!!
Furthermore, the UN's IJC agreed that Greece's decision to veto Macedonia's application to NATO violated the 1995 Interim Accord. You suggest that this action was brave. However, I see it as bullying a nation that has no political or economic recourse against Greece because you dislike their name. That is school yard behavior and "childish" for a first world country to be engaging in.
To a certain extent, I am being argumentative to promote an actual discussion. Otherwise, this topic would be pointless given the demographics of the forum. I can appreciate Greece's anger regarding the Republic of Macedonia's cultural propaganda surrounding Ancient Greece. However, I fully support the Republic of Macedonia's right to self-determination.
Edited by malcom.jansen, 20 January 2018 - 05:07 AM.