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#341 Nortrom

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 12:25 PM

Gary, thank you for opening the cases perfectly in line with standing policies. EtEu7qd.png

 

Would it be acceptable for vote numbers (thus not individual votes) to be published? like

Guilty: 3

Not guilty: 1

 

Thanks in advance.


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#342 Lonello

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 01:20 PM

As clearly stated, Nortrom, the cases as neatly summarized by Gary are, with the libel of you cs., put to Admin for review so you wouldn't get what you ask anyway. But if you would, trust me, you wouldn't like the results.


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Posted 21 February 2018 - 01:43 PM

I have a few questions and remarks about this:

 

1 Why was the normal procedure not followed? As shown by Nortrom, the statement that Napoleon made about not being able to rule is incorrect according to the site policy.

It would just mean that the MT member involved would not vote about it.

 

2 Could you please publicly post all the evidence as given to the admins, for verification of correctness and completeness.

 

3 I am will to testify as an expert witness in the case where I already posted information about earlier in the thread.

Please note that I am also in possession of evidence not yet seen by anyone involved in ruling these cases.

 

4 You mention that Nortrom would not like the results. Is there a pre-vote before examining the evidence and making a verdict? This is not uncommon in some countries where the legal system is still under development.



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Posted 21 February 2018 - 02:02 PM

I think he's assuming he will be found not guilty.
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Posted 21 February 2018 - 02:09 PM

I am treating this like a proper court, could you please elaborate more on that Fairway?

 

Who is assuming what in which case? Remember there are 2 cases.



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Posted 21 February 2018 - 03:18 PM

When we start adding qualifiers like "proper court" this case really starts straying into different directions Morx. I am not jumping to Fairways defense Morx but would add that here in USA a proper court finds one innocent until proven guilty. I think if my poor memory serves me that in a certain European countries court one is guilty until proven innocent. With that being said which "proper court" is being applied here ? Needless to say a "proper court  " in Singapore and China is as much different from their Western counter parts.  If I am wrong about the European court system (France) please correct me along with any spelling/grammar. I along with other players hope these matters get sorted out . Unlike Sgt B. I offer the universal GL to all in these matters. Ya know I am just pulling ya leg Stg. B please don't sick the Speller on me it is early in AM (again) here ! 



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Posted 21 February 2018 - 04:56 PM

I am just hoping for a proper handlement of the case, according to a predefined procedure with all evidence being taken into considerations.

 

As you could see from my questions, I have some doubts about the steps that have been followed so far.



#348 Don_Homer

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 10:55 PM

Morx and Nortrom, Do you really think you are constructive for stratego with these cases and all mess around it? Why put so much energy trying to hurt people because some things dont go exactly as you wish? Relaxed please and let it go.
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Posted 21 February 2018 - 11:00 PM

@Don_Homer there is a television series called Game of Thrones. Its a very good series, I would recommend watching it. One of the characters named Ygritte has a catch line: " You know nothing Jon Snow"

 

I would like to give you a similar one "You know nothin Don_Homer".

 

I am not going to explain what and why, because you would never understand.

 

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 11:09 PM

Congrats Morx! I know nothing! At least I know you have a special talent in contemptuous behaviour.

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#351 General Rascal

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 11:09 PM

Morx and Nortrom, Do you really think you are constructive for stratego with these cases and all mess around it? Why put so much energy trying to hurt people because some things dont go exactly as you wish? Relaxed please and let it go.

 

Here, here! I am with Don Homer on this. Use this forum for real abuse.



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Posted 21 February 2018 - 11:14 PM

@General Rascal: i consider the libel case that was discussed in this forum a more important case than some people calling other people clowns or idiots or morons or even retards in the game chat, because it is about principles.

 

However if you want some real abuse I am sure there are some players online that can give you some, just press the button to search for a match?



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Posted 22 February 2018 - 12:02 AM

@Don_Homer there is a television series called Game of Thrones. Its a very good series, I would recommend watching it. One of the characters named Ygritte has a catch line: " You know nothing Jon Snow"

 

I would like to give you a similar one "You know nothin Don_Homer".

 

I am not going to explain what and why, because you would never understand.

 

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 02:06 AM

 

However if you want some real abuse I am sure there are some players online that can give you some, just press the button to search for a match?

 

Are you asking a question?

 

It is my opinion that this whole brouhaha is blown way out of proportion. It seems like some are acting like their honor has been besmirched and all that is missing is a slap across the face with a pair of white gloves and the demand for satisfaction. "Sir, my Seconds will call upon your Seconds."


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Posted 23 February 2018 - 02:13 AM

Morx I have noticed that your posts in these topics seem very edgy , sarcastic, and rude. You are usually very nice so I'm not sure what's up. I'd like to ask your respectfully to please stop and present your ideas /thoughts in ways that are constructive and kind and not in a way that stir up controversy.

 

Thank you


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Posted 23 February 2018 - 02:15 AM

I am treating this like a proper court, could you please elaborate more on that Fairway?

 

Who is assuming what in which case? Remember there are 2 cases.

 

Yes, sure, I'm not sure what you mean by proper court (maybe a court difference between Europe and US but in Us "Innocent Until Proven Guilty" (not sure how Europe courts (UN?) function) I'm also not sure what a prevote is. I don't think we have that here, but if I'm wrong an American please correct me.

 

I am talking about the Nortrom-Lonello case, and responding to your point 4. It seems Lonello is assuming he will be found not guilty be stating to Nortrom "you will not like the decision."


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#357 Morx

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 03:20 PM

There were a few questions/remarks i posted a few days ago that probably fell through the cracks regarding the libel and slander case Nortrom vs Lonello:

 

Could you please be so kind to answer these?

 

1 Why was the normal procedure not followed? As shown by Nortrom, the statement that Napoleon made about not being able to rule is incorrect according to the site policy.

It would just mean that the MT member involved would not vote about it.

 

2 Could you please publicly post all the evidence as given to the admins, for verification of correctness and completeness.

 

3 I am will to testify as an expert witness in the case where I already posted information about earlier in the thread.

Please note that I am also in possession of evidence not yet seen by anyone involved in ruling these cases.

 

4 You mention that Nortrom would not like the results. Is there a pre-vote before examining the evidence and making a verdict? This is not uncommon in some countries where the legal system is still under development.

 

Also in another thread I mentioned that there was more new material of the same sort. Has this material and my fact finding with it been attached to the case?

 

Short version of that post was: Lonello can correctly count posts but other statements regarding Nortrom can be proven false.



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Posted 24 February 2018 - 01:00 AM

Be aware of a player named Artch Stanton, he refused to disclose his main acct. Record: approx 150-45. He will wait 15 secs when he is losing. I did return the favour once he told me he was intentionally wasting my time.
I did not want him to take all the credit himself. If that was his goal, I figured I would help his cause ;)

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Posted 24 February 2018 - 02:02 AM

I played Artch Stanton as well, he tried to ran his buffer out then came back at the end of it and for about 20 turns he took all 15 seconds for each move plus 1 sec of buffer time- eventually he ran out of time, lol 

Against Great Manos he sweared in Greek I think.


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Posted 24 February 2018 - 02:13 AM

He told me he was 1050 on his other account "before it was banned"

 

Why was it banned, I asked? "I don't know"

 

He slaughtered me anyway, so no poor sportsmanship from his side :)

 

But he did make some comments suggesting I had another higher ranked account, after I complimented him on 1050 he said "well you are pretty good yourself" I replied "well mid gold isn't that good", and he said "not this account of course but your other account"

 

I then asked him what other account, and explained to him I have only one other account which is lower than my Fairway main acct. Then he says "Now don't act like an idiot and pretend you don't know what I'm talking about"

 

Not sure...


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