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#401 KissMyCookie

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Posted 11 April 2018 - 06:20 PM

I would like to report a draw refusal by Surprises against Jesus_saves 

 

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Posted 11 April 2018 - 09:27 PM

I would like to report "Flaxes" for a second draw refusal this week. He never attempted to play. Just spent 15 minutes ranting and insulting me. I will also be reporting him for abusive comments. Here's all 8 of my screenshots. Four are abusive, 3 are draw refusals and one is my defeat screen. I think it's time this guy was suspended for awhile. No one should have to put up with this nonsense all the time.

 

https://imgur.com/YRMhGL6

 

https://imgur.com/trcgvn3

 

https://imgur.com/ZYUPMQ1

 

https://imgur.com/sleEddp

 

https://imgur.com/sBhVuH6

 

https://imgur.com/SSAiglG

 

https://imgur.com/1Ke4Kvl

 

https://imgur.com/wq39qLj


Edited by MisterTimRules, 12 April 2018 - 02:27 PM.


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Posted 11 April 2018 - 09:50 PM

Good to see you back MrTim and with another Flaxes game :)

If this was a paid court, all lawyers would want your business  ;) 


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Posted 11 April 2018 - 09:51 PM

 

If this was a paid court, all lawyers would want your business  ;)

Or a serious court for that matter.


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Posted 11 April 2018 - 10:04 PM

I would like to report "Flaxes" for a second draw refusal this week. He never attempted to play. Just spent 15 minutes ranting and insulting me.

 

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Please explain...in this one, I do not see the insult or abuse. Of course, he needs to prove IF you are a lying hypocrite, and I do not believe that you, MisterTimRules, are a lying hypocrite. His comment about you being the shuffler of the site does have merit, don't you think?

 

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Why is he calling you a liar??? I can understand that he may have trouble with you, and his opinion of you is that you are a fool and a joke, but you know that you are not, so do not let it bother you. This is hardly being friendly to you, MTR. It is uncalled for.

 

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Calling you a "BIRD BRAIN" is totally unacceptable, I admit. Well...sorry you had this experience twice with him.



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Posted 11 April 2018 - 11:06 PM

He thought that I had to wait 10 minutes after my second draw request before I could surrender and report him. I tried to tell him that it was 10 minutes after the first one, whether it was a 2nd or 3rd draw request.

 

I also noticed that you didn't post the last abusive chat, which was laced with obscenities. He will be reported for this garbage and he will get suspended for it. Do you really think he has a right to be abusive to players? One of these chats was sent while I was setting up! Not acceptable, in my opinion. 



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Posted 12 April 2018 - 05:53 AM

I would like to report a draw refusal by Surprises against Jesus_saves which happened on 11.4.18 between 5-7 pm. 

 

Did you have a shot of the defeat screen ?



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Posted 12 April 2018 - 06:49 AM

 

I went through ALL of these links, MTR, and I posted ALL of your uploaded chat messages (I would be happy to include more if you have them), so to use your motto, either put up or shut up. ;)

 

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 07:41 AM

I was not aware that I also have to send a screen shot of the defeat screen. I thought you see this in the history tracking file? I could not upload all the shots I made due to limited space. But I dońt have a shot of the defeat screen.
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Posted 12 April 2018 - 08:28 AM

Did you have a shot of the defeat screen ?


No I was not aware that I would need also a screen shot of the defeat screen, as this is anyhow in the log file I thought. I have an exchange about giving up forced due to not accepting a draw in the chat, which I couldńt upload cause of limited space but I can send this to you if you want.

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 02:29 PM

 

 

I went through ALL of these links, MTR, and I posted ALL of your uploaded chat messages (I would be happy to include more if you have them), so to use your motto, either put up or shut up.

 

 

Sorry, posted one of my screenshots twice. If you click on the last one now, you will see the obscene chat.



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Posted 12 April 2018 - 02:32 PM

Here's the correct link:

 

 

https://imgur.com/wq39qLj



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Posted 12 April 2018 - 08:41 PM

I would like to report a player/game for a draw refusal, but it seems I cannot upload images...?

 

Here is a link to a gallery I made: https://postimg.cc/gallery/ptayr17y/

 

The player is VOTLOOK. We both had bomb protected flags, and no scouts. He had an 8, me a 7. I circled the lake, and he tried to use his smaller pieces to bait me. My buffer went down quite a bit, as I was trying to figure what I needed to do to report it, then try to get screenshots etc.



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Posted 12 April 2018 - 09:20 PM

I would like to report a player/game for a draw refusal, but it seems I cannot upload images...?
 
Here is a link to a gallery I made: https://postimg.cc/gallery/ptayr17y/
 
The player is VOTLOOK. We both had bomb protected flags, and no scouts. He had an 8, me a 7. I circled the lake, and he tried to use his smaller pieces to bait me. My buffer went down quite a bit, as I was trying to figure what I needed to do to report it, then try to get screenshots etc.

A case is opened.

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 09:35 PM

StruhTeeGo,

 

The Forum Union would agree that this is a clear case of draw refusal and would, if in the right position, definitely punish this unsporting behaviour.

 

Unfortunately, reality is different. Your case most likely will receive a "no" vote from MT (the ones still in charge of decisions about cases like this) due to:

1. There is no defeat screenshot

2. You gambled your last piece after 20 minutes of dragging on

 

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 10:15 PM

There is a defeat screen–the issue has been clearly established that VOTLOOK has not the slightest interest in playing by the rules. It was a clear draw when StruhTeeGo offered the first draw request. StruhTeeGo offered his first request for draw refusal at 11:47 A.M.– the second draw refusal request was sent and it was refuse by VOTLOOK at 12:04 P.M. which indicates a full 16–17 minutes of this nonsense. This does not take in to account the first screenshot of the impossible situation at 11:42 A.M., as there are no miners on either side, and StruhTeeGo has a bombed in flag...there is no way to consummate this match with a decisive victory.

 

The fact that after so many wasted minutes in a game being perpetrated by a bully, VOTLOOK, who has simply driven his opponent with bullying, I vote VOTLOOK guilty of draw refusal and abusive behavior. One may argue that the match did develop with StruhTeeGo running into a bomb in the end, but then the real argument is that he should never have been bullied into this situation if VOTLOOK had not abused him.

 

I ask our esteemed colleague, Unladen Swallow, to devise the most appropriate and grueling punishment.

 

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Edited by KissMyCookie, 12 April 2018 - 10:15 PM.

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 10:47 PM

Thanks for your reply and support. Somehow the defeat screenshot didn't post... Here it is...

 

https://postimg.cc/image/dhmhwnkd9/

 

I gambled my last piece simply to get to the defeat screen. Should I have resigned? It wasn't obvious from the reporting guidelines how one should reach the defeat screen, just that you needed 10 minutes of screenshots and a defeat screen etc.

 

It dragged on for more like an hour+, this was the first time someone had declined a draw, so I was scrambling to figure out what I needed to do in order to present a case.

 

I appreciate uniformity and procedure in these matters, so I understand if the ruling isn't in my favor. So should I just resign in the future instead of taking a defeat through gamble/capture?



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Posted 12 April 2018 - 11:01 PM

I would like to report a player/game for a draw refusal, but it seems I cannot upload images...?

 

Here is a link to a gallery I made: https://postimg.cc/gallery/ptayr17y/

 

The player is VOTLOOK. We both had bomb protected flags, and no scouts. He had an 8, me a 7. I circled the lake, and he tried to use his smaller pieces to bait me. My buffer went down quite a bit, as I was trying to figure what I needed to do to report it, then try to get screenshots etc.

 

 

The MT rules this as a no case since StruhTeeGo attacked a bomb with his last movable piece in an apparent attempt to win the game.  For his part, however, votlook will be sent our draw refusal reminder letter.



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Posted 12 April 2018 - 11:08 PM

StruhTeeGo,

 

The Forum Union would agree that this is a clear case of draw refusal and would, if in the right position, definitely punish this unsporting behaviour.

 

Unfortunately, reality is different. Your case most likely will receive a "no" vote from MT (the ones still in charge of decisions about cases like this) due to:

1. There is no defeat screenshot

2. You gambled your last piece after 20 minutes of dragging on

 

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Forum Union - Serviceable to all players / forum users. Your concerns are our  concerns and will be handled with highest priority.

I don't want to say "told you so", but yeah, I did say it.


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Posted 12 April 2018 - 11:17 PM

I gambled my last piece simply to get to the defeat screen. Should I have resigned? It wasn't obvious from the reporting guidelines how one should reach the defeat screen, just that you needed 10 minutes of screenshots and a defeat screen etc.

 

 

Yes, unfortunately, it is seen as as attempting to win the game if you attack.  If it hadn't been a standard pyramid setup and you had won, we wouldn't even be talking about this.  So next time, yes, just give the culprit ten minutes to get it done and then resign.  Sorry this game was so very long for you.  Not many have experienced 1:43 long games.



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