I've also mentioned to the initiator of this poll that a week ban for a QA offense is way more severe than a 25 pt deduction. He seemed to be in agreememt - but I don't think its possible to edit the poll anymore.
Draw refusals often are obvious cases of mosbehaviour. I have a gen, opponent has a marsh left... marsh can't trap me.. it's a draw and even a total beginner should be able to understand that.
Mutiple chasing thing is less obvious. A warning (or two) with proper explanation before any punishments would be handed out would be a good thing. Some players don't onow or fully understand the concept of it all. Even experienced players may make a mstake in this.
Would MT hand out a punishment in case a player would not be an ♥♥♥ about it but gebuinely disagreed with his opppnent over something? (E.g. counter chase.. some people think that isnt allowed).
I'd suggest to hand out punishments to those who are assholes about it (I've got all day kind of people) who are being ignrant on purpose.
Of course this will lead to some difficult vases, but as mentioned before, the rules should protect players and be written from that point of view. Not from the punishment point of view.
In a live tournament I would never penalize a player who would multiple chase, but after instructions stops it, for this offense. Educating people in a non-obvious rule is to be preferred. Save the punishments for the select few that prefer to be an ♥♥♥ about it.
In said PM, I also said I'd share my POV after being appointed into MT but there you go .
Yes, I did agree that it's a bit unbalanced compared to the draw refusal schedule.
Here we currently have a 25 point ELO hit paired with a one week ban for QA games. There we have a 100 point ELO drop matched with the one week QA ban. So I do agree that it could be modified here.
One option I would consider (amongst others I haven't thought of) would be to change the suggested penalty schedule from the poll one of:
25 points/one week QA;
50 points/two week QA;
100 points/one month QA ban;
ELO to 100/three month ban QA;
25 points/warning only QA;
50 points/one week ban QA;
100 points/one week ban QA;
ELO to 100/one month ban QA;
Does this appeal to anyone more than the one in the poll?
As for education, I am all for it. We are usually at our best when we are trying to educate. However, we must face the facts: we simply don't have the numbers of accounts on the forum to be successful in any kind of education program that doesn't last years. We just can't effectively reach the enormous numbers of those on the game side.
Because of this I would always advise to let the penalties do the talking. If we want to be sympathetic, that's fine. Let's work that sympathy into the schedule. I really believe it is there but if it isn't, it can be adjusted to suit. The first thing the vast majority of players are going to run into is the penalty for the offense, not our forum sympathy.
That penalty needs to educate and with all the understanding that can be built into it for our system at this site. But it should be firm.