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#1 GaryLShelton

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Posted 13 January 2016 - 09:57 AM

This thread is for reporting any cases of cheating that you desire the MT to review. Remember, if you don't include adequate proof, in the form of screenshots and/or videos, your post may be hidden.

The old thread, if you don't see it, has been moved to the 2015 archive. You may view it there, though you will have to reply here.
The complete GS&F Rules can be found here: http://forum.strateg...rum-rules-2016/

Draw Refusal Rules, specifically, can be read here: http://forum.strateg...604#entry339604

#2 Largo

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Posted 26 January 2016 - 11:57 AM

Hello

 

This is my first time here.

I have send proof of 2 cheathers to customercare@stratego.com for almost a week now.

Why can anybody answer my email?

 

Greetz

Largo



#3 SHOOGHIE

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 11:29 PM

This thread is for reporting any cases of cheating that you desire the MT to review. Remember, if you don't include adequate proof, in the form of screenshots and/or videos, your post may be hidden.

The old thread, if you don't see it, has been moved to the 2015 archive. You may view it there, though you will have to reply here.

A game of mine got posted on youtube by a "friend" without my permission. John Collasky/Yangus/EINOLLAW used to train me back in my early stages. He played me now under a nickname I did not know and afterwards I was surprised to find back the video here: https://www.youtube....h?v=dg4C-1Yi__8

 

I have asked Loris Collart (real name) to remove the video from youtube. Instead, he blocked me on FB. He continues to post videos on youtube without the permission of his opponents. Would be glad if this can be reviewed. Thanks & best


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#4 ChiefMiz

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 12:01 AM

A Player named _logic_ just bum rushed my flag after he was clearly beaten. 

How are people still cheating at this game?

 

I gave up on this site years ago after too many cheats ruined it for me.

Now I'm going to have to quit again.

 

If JUMBO can't prevent cheating, every loss is in question.



#5 sevenseas

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 12:03 AM

I agree that permission is needed before posting videos online. It is very good etiquette to do so. However, he doesn't need permission to do so theoretically as there's nothing stopping him from posting the video regardless. 

 

My best advice is to ask politely before the game starts not to have the game recorded, if you don't want it to be recorded. 


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#6 sevenseas

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 12:06 AM

A Player named _logic_ just bum rushed my flag after he was clearly beaten. 

How are people still cheating at this game?

 

I gave up on this site years ago after too many cheats ruined it for me.

Now I'm going to have to quit again.

 

If JUMBO can't prevent cheating, every loss is in question.

 

He wasn't cheating, he recognised he was at a disadvantage and decided to lotto your setup before resigning. He happened to stumble upon your flag that time through luck (or perhaps he read your setup well). Either way i can suggest:-

a. To recognise when to defend your setup, especially when you have an open flag, when winning the game

b. To understand that some players prefer to play a luck based game, hitting unmoved pieces, as opposed to playing strategically. This is called "lottoing".

 

Please don't leave this site though! It's a great game so just keep learning. :) 


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#7 Moriarty

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 03:45 AM

I'm having problems with my accountarrow-10x10.png, sometimes I cant log in, sometimes I cant post. To post right nowarrow-10x10.png I need to press "More Reply Options".

Also I cant "Like", or press that little arrow ont he right of posts.

 

Anyway, to the point:

Shoogie, John Collasky/Loris is a pretty nice guy. I'm surprised he would do that. Are you sure it wasn't a misunderstanding? (sevenseas now I know what you were talking about)

 

Also, Chief Miz, is that a joke? Are you saying yourarrow-10x10.png opponent was cheating because he got your flag? That is the point of the gamearrow-10x10.png...


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#8 Moriarty

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 03:50 AM

A similar case which I thought was an accidentarrow-10x10.png at the time was as followsarrow-10x10.png:

 

I wanted Yangus/John to recordarrow-10x10.png a game, which he did, but told him clearly to post it after a week (as I wanted to use the setup for a tourney game in a couple days), but the nextarrow-10x10.png day I found it on youtube. Fortunately, I still won my opponent likely he didnt watch it, but I still thought it was a bit odd.

 

Anyway, I hope its a misunderstanding Shoogie


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#9 GaryLShelton

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 05:07 AM

A game of mine got posted on youtube by a "friend" without my permission.


A case will be opened by the MT, SHOOGHIE.
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#10 Moriarty

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 06:14 AM

er, even if that was true, if John posted it without his permission, what can the MT do about it?

If you read my post, no one said it was illegal/not allowed on Stratego, so all you can do is call it bad sportsmanship.

I'm not sure if I'm right, please correct me


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#11 sevenseas

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 01:56 PM

I just checked and it seems Loris has removed the video with you SHOOGHIE. ;)
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#12 SHOOGHIE

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 05:08 PM

Yes he did. He regretted it and removed the game and added me on FB again. So I revoke my request. I am a lawyer and it is legally questionable whether you can post such videos.
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#13 GaryLShelton

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 05:34 PM

I am a lawyer


Are you an American or Brit? If you mind saying, that's fine.

We'll drop the complaint within the MT then. Thanks for bringing it up. It's a sensitive issue. I wonder if all countries would view this the same way legally.

 

EDIT LATER:  I see your flag on the leaderboard.  No need to respond.


Edited by GaryLShelton, 05 February 2016 - 06:23 PM.
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#14 Moriarty

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 06:02 PM

Maybe it was a misunderstanding =)
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Posted 05 February 2016 - 06:29 PM

I'm having problems with my accountarrow-10x10.png, sometimes I cant log in, sometimes I cant post. To post right nowarrow-10x10.png I need to press "More Reply Options".

Also I cant "Like", or press that little arrow ont he right of posts.

 

Anyway, to the point:

Shoogie, John Collasky/Loris is a pretty nice guy. I'm surprised he would do that. Are you sure it wasn't a misunderstanding? (sevenseas now I know what you were talking about)

 

Also, Chief Miz, is that a joke? Are you saying yourarrow-10x10.png opponent was cheating because he got your flag? That is the point of the gamearrow-10x10.png...

I deleted the game against shoogie, sorry for the disturbance.



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Posted 05 February 2016 - 06:35 PM

I think we can post video without permission.

I don't film private elements of anybody.

Now i try to hide the name of the opponent, but this is only a game.

It's not good to use the same setup : you have to change it everytime.

I want to show good games 'cause this is the best strategy game, i want to share

games and setups, here is my website :

http://strategowallonie.jimdo.com/

 

Shoogie, we are friend again now, could you forgive me.

 

Thank you Moriarty for your friendship, you are great.

 

Loris.


Edited by Yangus, 05 February 2016 - 06:37 PM.

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#17 sevenseas

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 07:34 PM

Yes he did. He regretted it and removed the game and added me on FB again. So I revoke my request. I am a lawyer and it is legally questionable whether you can post such videos.

It's not legally questionable, it's a public game of stratego. It's not illegal to record a game without permission but of course it's not the best sportsmanship.


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Posted 05 February 2016 - 08:21 PM

This is not a case of clear cheating, but it is irritating. I played JBond who has a low number of games and had a 774 ranking. I know that duplicate accounts have been mentioned many times before, but it is irritating, especially when they are not declared.

 

Secondly, I got disconnected in the middle of the game and he wouldn't share what pieces he had lost. He responded on chat later about something else (saying I got lucky when I killed many of his pieces with a lieutenant) so I know he was seeing the chat. Not really cheating but bad sportsmanship. I do wish Jumbo could fix this glitch. I had completely forgotten much of the pieces that I had taken and it probably cost me the game.



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Posted 05 February 2016 - 08:35 PM

Yes. So the thing I dont get is when Gary said the MT will review the Shoogie case. Just exactly what can they do about it? Its not illegal or against the rules...

 

(not that I approve but just curious)


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Posted 06 February 2016 - 11:50 AM

Are you an American or Brit? If you mind saying, that's fine.

We'll drop the complaint within the MT then. Thanks for bringing it up. It's a sensitive issue. I wonder if all countries would view this the same way legally.

 

EDIT LATER:  I see your flag on the leaderboard.  No need to respond.

Hi Gary, I am Dutch, but I live already 5 years in Austria. Got partly "disconnected" from the NL. That is why I play for Austria :).






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