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#1 Astros 17

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Posted 06 November 2015 - 10:38 PM

Almost every new player who I face in quick arena has one of three setups. These setups come pre-made with the app. Because all of these players have the same setup quick arena has become very boring and easy.


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Posted 07 November 2015 - 01:54 AM

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Edited by Chewtoy, 07 November 2015 - 12:05 PM.

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Posted 07 November 2015 - 02:15 AM

Astros says himself he only wins half of all quick games so it probably is the strategies.
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Posted 07 November 2015 - 03:24 AM

Astros says himself he only wins half of all quick games so it probably is the strategies.

I do not count the games where I know my opponent's setup before. I am mediocre otherwise.


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Posted 07 November 2015 - 11:06 AM

Exactly.


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Posted 07 November 2015 - 10:37 PM

Almost every new player who I face in quick arena has one of three setups. These setups come pre-made with the app. Because all of these players have the same setup quick arena has become very boring and easy.

 

Word. Sometimes I'm winning 20 games in a row because of this. They have no chance using this setups.


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Posted 07 November 2015 - 11:19 PM

Word. Sometimes I'm winning 20 games in a row because of this. They have no chance using this setups.

Same here. It gets SOOOOOO boring. I've gone, like, 28-2 in my last 30 quick games. It super sad.


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Posted 09 November 2015 - 09:07 AM

There should be 20+ different setups. 

If you keep getting 2-3, we will look into this.

 

Implementing the ability to make setups will take away the 'quick'  from Quick Battles.


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Posted 09 November 2015 - 02:49 PM

There should be 20+ different setups. 

If you keep getting 2-3, we will look into this.

 

Implementing the ability to make setups will take away the 'quick'  from Quick Battles.

There are 2-3. Players are only placing 10 pieces. If you reduce the quick arena setup clock to 2 minutes players would have time to setup and the games would remain quick.


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Posted 09 November 2015 - 03:09 PM

There are 2-3. Players are only placing 10 pieces. If you reduce the quick arena setup clock to 2 minutes players would have time to setup and the games would remain quick.

 

I checked.. I was wrong... there are actually 40-80 setups


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Posted 09 November 2015 - 03:20 PM

I checked.. I was wrong... there are actually 40-80 setups

I am seeing the same setups a lot. How different are the various setups? I am going to experiment with quick arena in the app today. 


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Posted 09 November 2015 - 03:34 PM

I am seeing the same setups a lot. How different are the various setups? I am going to experiment with quick arena in the app today. 

 

With 30 tiles and 7 units per tile, there are a lot more options available than 40-80, so I think that most will be different.

I just played 5 quick battles and had 5 different setups...


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Posted 09 November 2015 - 03:49 PM

Mick.. 

 

You just killed the quick arena.

 

Period.


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Posted 09 November 2015 - 03:55 PM

Mick you are right there is more variety than I thought. However, the way the setups are made is very similar. This makes beating players using these setups very easy. The great thing about quick arena is making quirky setups to outwit your opponent.

 

A two minute setup clock would keep games short but still allow for the variety that makes this game mode great.


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Posted 09 November 2015 - 04:01 PM

Mick.. 

 

You just killed the quick arena.

 

Period.

 

That's an outrageous accusation though ;)

The statistics say otherwise!

 

I suspect you base this purely on your own feelings towards the new app?

 

 

Mick you are right there is more variety than I thought. However, the way the setups are made is very similar. This makes beating players using these setups very easy. The great thing about quick arena is making quirky setups to outwit your opponent.

 

A two minute setup clock would keep games short but still allow for the variety that makes this game mode great.

 

More variety is always good. We're hoping to add more in the upcoming update!


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Posted 09 November 2015 - 04:05 PM

That's an outrageous accusation though ;)

The statistics say otherwise!

 

I suspect you base this purely on your own feelings towards the new app?

 

 

Jep, it's purely my feeling indeed.  :)

 

But you guys are step by step kiddifying the game (making it more easy to play for kids, and take away a skill part of the game), so i am indeed making it bigger then it is, but it's just my concern that in 2 months everybody will know this 60 setups there are now and that there is no fun in the quick arena anymore.


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Posted 09 November 2015 - 04:21 PM

Jep, it's purely my feeling indeed.  :)

 

But you guys are step by step kiddifying the game (making it more easy to play for kids, and take away a skill part of the game), so i am indeed making it bigger then it is, but it's just my concern that in 2 months everybody will know this 60 setups there are now and that there is no fun in the quick arena anymore.

 

I'm sorry you feel this way.

 

THough, gameplay-wise, we haven't taken away the skill. You're still playing against real people.


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Posted 09 November 2015 - 04:24 PM

I'm sorry you feel this way.

 

THough, gameplay-wise, we haven't taken away the skill. You're still playing against real people.

 

It is all ok for me, as long as you let people make there own 40 pieces set ups. This will not also get changed right?


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Posted 09 November 2015 - 04:35 PM

It is all ok for me, as long as you let people make there own 40 pieces set ups. This will not also get changed right?

 

This will not be changed :)


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Posted 09 November 2015 - 10:53 PM

Mick, I totally agree with max. For me as well is crucial being able to make your own set up in the quick arena.

Found the quick game more fun and interesting than the full one, having played more than 1000 games already. In fact, have not played a full one in a year maybe.

Now, with this random setup feature, do not really like to play anymore. Has no interest for me. All the tactics are gone.

Could you please reconsider it. Like allowing 1 min to make your set up and loading a random one if not made in that time. Please.
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