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#1 maxroelofs

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Posted 16 September 2015 - 03:31 PM

I am interested to see what you would have done in this situation:

 

I was in a ranked game with Sohal, and the game was only a 100 moves old I think (5 minutes) I was up a captain and a sergeant, he knew 2 of my captains and 1 major, i knew 1 lieutenant. We moved up and down a bit and i thought about offering him a draw. Right at that moment he offers me a draw, I accepted. This very strange game ended within 5 minutes and the draw got me 7 points.

 

The question here is:

 

Did I do good to draw him, or was I too scared of his reputation?


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#2 Sohal

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Posted 16 September 2015 - 03:52 PM

Some players (you are not one of them) just try to get a draw from the first move till the last.

Worst at gravon, those are using a quick clock and they try to kill time by chasing you again and again all the game.


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Posted 16 September 2015 - 03:52 PM

I would have kept playing because your end-game is pretty strong. 

 

He must have been out of position (or maybe his dinner was getting cold). 


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#4 maxroelofs

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Posted 16 September 2015 - 03:56 PM

I would have kept playing because your end-game is pretty strong. 

 

He must have been out of position (or maybe his dinner was getting cold). 

 

Thanks for the compliment on my endgame, i have to state though that the game was not in the endgame yet, if I recall it right i captured 5 of his pieces, he captured 3 of mine, so the game would have lasted for quite a while.

 

@ Sohal

 

That's not my style, but I was just thinking about offering you a draw when you offered me one. I hope you can understand my decision from my position.


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#5 Sohal

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Posted 16 September 2015 - 04:15 PM

i am the one who offered the draw, so i can't blame you to have taken it.



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Posted 16 September 2015 - 04:42 PM

then dont play that time clock. there are more games on gravon with more time

 

bud there are players that do that.onley its your own chioce if you jion or not.


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Posted 16 September 2015 - 05:46 PM

SOhal has not played in the last days ... was it rather against sinus or cosinus? .... anyway getting 7 points after 5 minutes is certainly a good deal. This allows you to start another game and get additional points ....


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Posted 16 September 2015 - 06:48 PM

Mathematically speaking, it's a great deal (for max). From a point of view of gaining experience by playing the best, I wouldn't have taken the deal. I am interested in Sohals reasoning for offering the draw however. It doesn't seem that anything significant enough had happened to change the odds of the outcome.

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Posted 16 September 2015 - 07:50 PM

Mathematically speaking, it's a great deal (for max). From a point of view of gaining experience by playing the best, I wouldn't have taken the deal. I am interested in Sohals reasoning for offering the draw however. It doesn't seem that anything significant enough had happened to change the odds of the outcome.

 

The main raison was that i was bombed on one side, his weak side in my opinion. It was clear he had no intention to attack.

Maybe i could have win (maybe), but it would have been a very long game and i didn't bother to play that kind of game.


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#10 maxroelofs

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Posted 17 September 2015 - 12:47 AM

The main raison was that i was bombed on one side, his weak side in my opinion. It was clear he had no intention to attack.

Maybe i could have win (maybe), but it would have been a very long game and i didn't bother to play that kind of game.

 

When i started playing i wasn't too defensive or agressive, I think just normal. But when I got the advantage I noticed that I got a bit nervous. Against good players the stuff you think, works out bad so many times, that you start doubting about your own strategy. I was happy to take the draw.

 

Also to answer Nopoleon: I played Sinus.

 

Ps: I assume you thougt my left (your right) side was my weak side? I had marshal, Spy and kolo there, but it was too early in the game to make such prediction I think.


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Posted 20 September 2015 - 11:11 AM

I am interested to see what you would have done in this situation:

 

I was in a ranked game with Sohal, and the game was only a 100 moves old I think (5 minutes) I was up a captain and a sergeant, he knew 2 of my captains and 1 major, i knew 1 lieutenant. We moved up and down a bit and i thought about offering him a draw. Right at that moment he offers me a draw, I accepted. This very strange game ended within 5 minutes and the draw got me 7 points.

 

The question here is:

 

Did I do good to draw him, or was I too scared of his reputation?

 

 

Yo Max,

 

 

I thought you were a grown vet, you know that so it's groce lad,

a joke yes that you don't act with dope tact to go mad 

by bluffin' ur known deck off with three majors and back 'm with both caps!  :D

Your spy is a col and your col pretends to be low trash, you cope track...

with his known staff,.....in this case the lieut so you kill it with your seventh unknown cap!  :D

You take your fourth major to hunt his general down the ropes lad

and you hunt his marsh with a miner who's stealin' his devote flag! 

 

 

You always attack, you want the info but in this game it isn't mutual, is it?

But you're not a coward,.....just bluff the hell out of him, it's usual business.

You'll find a way with some crucial wiztricks in his beautiful district

Just apply your suitable gifts kid and and his work becomes unuseable, dismissed.

I'm disappointed you didn't go for the win,...you're the juvenile wizkid

who even gets paid to teach some lessons online to a consumable nitwit!  :D


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#12 sevenseas

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Posted 20 September 2015 - 11:46 AM

I think in one way it's great you managed to get a draw against one of the best players!

 

Personally though, I would play on. I like the experience of the game, and know one can only get better by playing the best. It sounded like you could have maybe won the battle if you kept fighting and didn't lose your nerves. :)


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#13 jensneuij

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 02:32 PM

Personally I usually like to play the game out and only draw if I really need to. I probably would have refused it.


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#14 douevenswitchbro

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Posted 04 October 2015 - 02:44 PM

depends, if you want experience in-game, you should have had done what you did, if you wants to have more experience as in playing the game and getting better, you should have declined. I would have personally declined and kept going.



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Posted 04 October 2015 - 03:14 PM

I would have excepted it because I know that Sohal would be too good for me to keep on winning. Besides, you still got several positive points. :)


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#16 Theeasy8s

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 05:04 AM

excepted it? You mean accepted it.


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Posted 27 October 2015 - 08:10 PM

Hmm... In my case, I would accept the draw, but that would be just for the points. 

In Max' case, I won't accept the draw, but I can't get in his situation because he is a thousand times better than I am.

 

In each case: you learn from such a game against one of the best players!



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Posted 28 October 2015 - 11:40 AM

excepted it? You mean accepted it.

Yes. accepted it.


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Posted 30 August 2016 - 02:32 PM

@sohal and max and other top players

when you play with players way below your level do you usually attack or defend in order to wait for the mistakes they will surely do?



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Posted 30 August 2016 - 02:40 PM

@sohal and max and other top players

when you play with players way below your level do you usually attack or defend in order to wait for the mistakes they will surely do?

 

 

I will adjust my play to that. If he makes little defensive mistakes early on I will attack, if he is very agressive, I will set some traps ready.


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