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#361 zervalu

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Posted 09 June 2017 - 12:55 PM

I would like to report Vragiana for refusing to accept what should have been a clear draw.

 

My flag was bombed in and he had lost his last minor. I had the highest piece left on the board (a colonel), and seeing as there were barely any pieces left, there was no chance I was going to run my colonel into a bomb.

 

In the chat I told him it should be a draw. I forgot to take a screenshot of the chat, but he didn't reply anyway. Maybe he didn't see it or doesn't speak English. Anyway, here come the screenshots.

 

http://imageshack.co...6669/8aK3ov.jpg
http://imageshack.co...4189/mjIerA.jpg
http://imageshack.co...6782/WWR38K.jpg

 

I think this is as straightforward a tie as can be.



#362 GaryLShelton

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Posted 09 June 2017 - 02:31 PM

I would like to report Vragiana for refusing to accept what should have been a clear draw.


We'll re-open a case we had opened for this player.

The complete GS&F Rules can be found here: http://forum.strateg...rum-rules-2016/

Draw Refusal Rules, specifically, can be read here: http://forum.strateg...604#entry339604

#363 tobermoryx

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 07:07 AM

The MT has found player CRUSADERS A*S*A* guilty of draw refusal in a match with MisterTimRules

 

The 13 points unfairly gained will be removed from CRUSADERS A*S*A* and restored to his opponent and a further 100 points will be deducted .


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#364 tobermoryx

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 07:56 AM

Player Dactylo123 is guilty of draw refusal against mazuzam

 

Player Lady Knight guilty versus MisterTimRules

 

In both cases there will be a reversal of the 13 points gained and a further 100 pts will be deducted.


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#365 tobermoryx

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 08:15 AM

Player vragiana is to be permanently banned aftera 3rd instance of draw refusal

 

The opponent , zervalu will have 13 points restored.

 

All decisions await admin action.


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#366 tobermoryx

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 08:44 AM

Player papagalos is to be permanently banned after a 3rd instance of draw refusal

 

The opponent , mazuzam will have 13 points restored.

 

Player ILoseWayTooMuch is to be banned for 1 week for draw refusal in a Quick Arena match versus Nedwerd



#367 goy

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 11:31 AM

i am now playing vragiana, theoretically banned

this is super annoying

there is no sense in waiting

can I commit suicide? will I take my points back?

ps. I WON, but it is stil, very annoying


Edited by goy, 10 June 2017 - 11:59 AM.


#368 Henry domerkant

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 02:12 PM

I dont know where to post them
I had connection lost through set up
And after half an hour i look at this message and wait i pressed and lost the gane and 13 points
This system just sucks
Over 50times i wait and finally see ( draw your opponent....)
Why today wasnt a draw
I will post some screenshots( i dont know where to post them and i would like to know if there is any chance to take my points back( i cant prove i lost 13p but i think that admins can see that in somw way
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#369 Henry domerkant

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 02:15 PM

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#370 Henry domerkant

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 02:16 PM

One othet time i was a few moves before a great win i had a connection lost for a few seconds
I knew that i had 2:30min to return but noo you lost

#371 vragiana

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 07:08 PM

danker, you don't have the time on your second refusal screen so there's no way of determining unsportsmanlike delay and abuse from your evidence. You need to ideally show ten minutes' worth of time between refusal screens. There is five minutes between the first refusal screen and the defeat screen, but it needs to be more time and strictly between two refusal screens only. The link to draw refusal rules is at the bottom of every one of my posts

YOU ARE A LIAR AND HYPOCRITE

YOU PUNISH ME, EVEN THOUGH BETWEEN THE SCREENSHOTS WERE ONLY 7 MINS

I FEEL PITY ABOUT YOU ALL



#372 vragiana

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 07:30 PM

danker, you don't have the time on your second refusal screen so there's no way of determining unsportsmanlike delay and abuse from your evidence. You need to ideally show ten minutes' worth of time between refusal screens. There is five minutes between the first refusal screen and the defeat screen, but it needs to be more time and strictly between two refusal screens only. The link to draw refusal rules is at the bottom of every one of my posts

AND THE PROOFS

http://forum.strateg...h&fromMainBar=1

http://imgur.com/a/iX2nQ

 

SHAME ON YOU

YOU MUST QUIT

I M M E D I A T E L Y !!!!!!!



#373 vragiana

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 08:43 PM

danker, you don't have the time on your second refusal screen so there's no way of determining unsportsmanlike delay and abuse from your evidence. You need to ideally show ten minutes' worth of time between refusal screens. There is five minutes between the first refusal screen and the defeat screen, but it needs to be more time and strictly between two refusal screens only. The link to draw refusal rules is at the bottom of every one of my posts

Posted 16 December 2016 - 02:57 AM

The MT finds vragiana guilty of a 1st degree draw refusal in his game with dankervragiana will have 113 points deducted from his rating and he will be sent a warning letter. danker will have 13 points restored to him for the draw. 
 
 
SHAME ON YOU !!!!!!!
SHAME ON YOU !!!!!!!
SHAME ON YOU !!!!!!!


#374 GaryLShelton

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 02:39 AM

YOU ARE A LIAR AND HYPOCRITE
YOU PUNISH ME, EVEN THOUGH BETWEEN THE SCREENSHOTS WERE ONLY 7 MINS
I FEEL PITY ABOUT YOU ALL


vragiana, I do see you admit to 7 minutes of draw refusal in the case above. That's honest of you. But while 10 minutes of draw refusal evidence will always convict, 7 minutes is a very risky proposition for you to wait. We commonly judge for complaints where 7 to 10 minutes of proof are shown. That's just a fact.

In these cases where less than 10 minutes' proof are used to convict, one factor we go by is experience of the players involved. Your rank as a high platinum, and the high number of moves in the game, convinced the MT that you should have seen the deadlocked state of your game. Your opponent's marshal had your miner trapped around the one lake and his spy effectively had your marshal blocked off around the other. This was a draw situation.

This case is only part of why you have been PB'd, though. You have had two other draw refusal convictions besides this one, so your difficulties cannot be pegged to this one case alone. I'm sorry you do not acknowledge your responsibility in your own demise.

The complete GS&F Rules can be found here: http://forum.strateg...rum-rules-2016/

Draw Refusal Rules, specifically, can be read here: http://forum.strateg...604#entry339604

#375 vragiana

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 09:54 PM

vragiana, I do see you admit to 7 minutes of draw refusal in the case above. That's honest of you. But while 10 minutes of draw refusal evidence will always convict, 7 minutes is a very risky proposition for you to wait. We commonly judge for complaints where 7 to 10 minutes of proof are shown. That's just a fact.

In these cases where less than 10 minutes' proof are used to convict, one factor we go by is experience of the players involved. Your rank as a high platinum, and the high number of moves in the game, convinced the MT that you should have seen the deadlocked state of your game. Your opponent's marshal had your miner trapped around the one lake and his spy effectively had your marshal blocked off around the other. This was a draw situation.

This case is only part of why you have been PB'd, though. You have had two other draw refusal convictions besides this one, so your difficulties cannot be pegged to this one case alone. I'm sorry you do not acknowledge your responsibility in your own demise.

I TOLD YOU THEN, I TELL YOU AGAIN

THE PICTURE IS CUT

MY MINER IS NEXT TO HIS FLAG

THAT IS WHY HE SURRENDER AT 7 MIN

CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT ?



#376 maxroelofs

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Posted 12 June 2017 - 10:09 PM

I would like to report Vragiana for refusing to accept what should have been a clear draw.

 

My flag was bombed in and he had lost his last minor. I had the highest piece left on the board (a colonel), and seeing as there were barely any pieces left, there was no chance I was going to run my colonel into a bomb.

 

In the chat I told him it should be a draw. I forgot to take a screenshot of the chat, but he didn't reply anyway. Maybe he didn't see it or doesn't speak English. Anyway, here come the screenshots.

 

http://imageshack.co...6669/8aK3ov.jpg
http://imageshack.co...4189/mjIerA.jpg
http://imageshack.co...6782/WWR38K.jpg

 

I think this is as straightforward a tie as can be.

 

 

You couldve won that game still, 100% win right there.


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#377 tobermoryx

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Posted 16 June 2017 - 01:51 AM

I have 2 draw refusals to report

 

1st is johnson6388 This happened last month but i've only just got round to uploading it. He has since been banned .Hopefully we don't have a statute of limitations  :unsure:

 

The entire video is just johnson double chasing my Sergeants either side of refusing draws at 00:30 and 13:19

 

https://youtu.be/esNitmvyu6Q

 

2nd is Marshal 2004 , today ,who is offered draws @ 00.19 and 14:00 ( i lost track of the time with his silly chat distracting me ) All he does is run pieces around the lake.

 

https://youtu.be/mQJ-0LcU9mM



#378 mazuzam

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Posted 16 June 2017 - 01:21 PM

Draw refusal and abusive behavior by arxidamos.psolas: http://imgur.com/a/1tKaY

 

 

This is very passive player. At the beginning he refused to attack and refused my 2 draw offers. Then he decided to move along. But I lost 2 draw offers already. At the end of the game he left with no miners and we both had 1 colonel each the highest piece. He kept chasing me with it for 16 minutes after my last draw offer and numerous warnings in the chat.

 

 



#379 roeczak

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Posted 16 June 2017 - 02:48 PM

The name is also abusive and I think danis can confirm.

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Posted 16 June 2017 - 10:19 PM

I just played petejohnson

he is a trol

hasnt done a single move

http://imgur.com/a/EpYJr






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