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#1 Revealer

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Posted 15 May 2015 - 07:54 PM

i have made this account solely for the purpose of revealing/unraveling cheaters, as a whistle-blower. using a specially designed system, i will be cross-linking accounts which were not known before.

  • i know this is ethically highly disputable, but it is my two cents against duplicate accounts
  • i will remain anonymous. ofcourse i also have another account, which is actually pretty hypocritical, but i think you can understand
  • i will not tell anything about used methods
  • i have very high confidence the information i post will be correct. i don't care if you believe the information i post or not
  • i will try to avoid posting accounts that are already linked/posted on the forum by players themselves

 

the cheaters - (people who use their accounts alternating right after eachother and hoping they get the same opponent)

larry dimmick - MARECHAL LECLERC

 

other account links

gor - gorxon - pestilence" - antinazi - anticop - 13~

Number 3 - Number 4 - NDJ

Grigoris1 - kwstas27

Schrambo - Saddam Hoessein - Jacco Schram

Byzantinos - Byzantinos Aetos - IAN CURTIS

Carlo Magno - Captain Palacios

<some name in arabic with a greek flag> - GREEK ARMY

joe 11 - anuar

Paok (with a greek P) - Marshal 2003

nelsonnelson - <Jordan>

www.warzone.com - (dutchkillers/tansifer/razorblade - last were known, first not)

 

To be continued.. (this is only half for now)


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#2 Aris1970

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 03:54 PM

 

Revealer, on 15 Jun 2015 - 4:45 PM, said:

yeah, your identified list is quite long:

  • Aris1970
  • MAKEDONAS
  • MAKEDONAS-HELLAS
  • IS-GR-MACEDONIA-
  • MACEDONIA IS 1GR
  • 1GR-MACEDONIA-1
  • 1GR-IS-MACEDONIA
  • TIGER 1 GR MACED
  • STRATARXIS-GR-1
  • MACEDONIA-GR-1
  • MACEDONIA-GR-2
  • GR-GR-MACEDONIA
  • warriorsss
and i am sure i have missed some yet   ;)

 

 

Revealer, on 16 Jun 2015 - 11:11 AM, said:

hey,
 
why did you block your original Aris1970 account from this thread? i want to be able to also speak to your real account too if we will work together.
 
and why are you in the clean ranking with 2 accounts: Aris1970 and warriorsss? do you want this relation kept secret? that is ok and i can do that.
 
i am just curious. we need to build some trust first if we will work together on this sensitive matter. and then we can help eachother!
meanwhile, i am preparing the other list of accounts, it takes some time

 

Blakeies !!!


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#3 Aris1970

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 06:01 PM

  • MACEDONIA-GR-1
  • My list is quite longest:
  • GR-ALEXANDER-GR
  • ALEXANDER THE GREAT

    ALEXANDER THE G

  • ALEXANDER GREK 3

    STRATARHIS GR

    STRATARHIS –1-GR

    GR-1-STRATARHIS

    STRATARHIS –GR-M

    STRATARHIS –GR-MACEDONIOS

    GR1 STRATARCHIS

    MACEDONIA IN GR

    MACEDONIA IS 1GR

    GR-MAKEDONIA

    GR-GR-MAKEDONIA

    GR-IS-MAKEDONIA

    MACEDONIA-GR-1

    MACEDONIA-IS-GR

    MAKEDONIA GREECE

    MAKEDON

    MAKEDONAS

    Makedonomaxos


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#4 sevenseas

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 06:59 PM

That's a lot of accounts, Aris. :o


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#5 Mr. Smith

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 07:56 PM

Very creative nick names, Aris. :D


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#6 Revealer

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 01:03 AM

just to be complete, the full conversation. i had a good indication that aris1970 is warriorsss and all other mentioned accounts, but not solid proof. as soon as he started talking to me himself about it, i took the opportunity and tried to get a confession out of him, and I also contacted him through his original aris1970 account to verify it, so i could add napoleon suddenly to the thread so the clean ranking can be cleaned from this duplicate. however, he noticed this in time and backed out:
 

Hey i saw recently on your posts that you are doing a research about second accounts.

Can you saw me that list?
Maybe I can help with your research brcause I am second account too (my basic accounts are: Aris1970, ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΑΣ, MAKEDONAS-HELLAS and this one but i have some more bwt...)

I think I can be helpful. If you read this just sent me a PM


yeah, your identified list is quite long:

  • Aris1970
  • MAKEDONAS
  • MAKEDONAS-HELLAS
  • IS-GR-MACEDONIA-
  • MACEDONIA IS 1GR
  • 1GR-MACEDONIA-1
  • 1GR-IS-MACEDONIA
  • TIGER 1 GR MACED
  • STRATARXIS-GR-1
  • MACEDONIA-GR-1
  • MACEDONIA-GR-2
  • GR-GR-MACEDONIA
  • warriorsss
and i am sure i have missed some yet  ;)


GENERAL.OF GREEK 
and continues........................
 
 
but i want to tell me about the other players please


hey,
 
why did you block your original Aris1970 account from this thread? i want to be able to also speak to your real account too if we will work together.
 
and why are you in the clean ranking with 2 accounts: Aris1970 and warriorsss? do you want this relation kept secret? that is ok and i can do that.
 
i am just curious. we need to build some trust first if we will work together on this sensitive matter. and then we can help eachother!
meanwhile, i am preparing the other list of accounts, it takes some time.


secret!
 everything you want i am here


I do not understand nothing !!!

 
 
 
 
however, he recently posted this post: (as far as i understand it, he states that the makedonas account is impostering him)
 

Τις τελευταίες μέρες κάποιος κάνει σκληρό χιούμορ και παριστάνει εμένα …….. έχει μιλήσει σε αρκετούς  λέγοντας ότι είναι ο Aris , στέλνει pm , στο  chat λέει διάφορα ……http://imgur.com/xplqwwF     ώστε να δημιουργήσει προβλήματα (προφανώς στην Ελληνική online κοινότητα) , σίγουρα γνωρίζει αρκετά πολλούς από εμάς (λαμβάνοντας υπόψη αυτά που λέει…)
Συγχρόνως έχει φταίξει 10δες λογαριασμούς παριστάνοντας εμένα… με θράσος που δεν φαντάζεστε !!!
Στέλνει pm……..και σε λογαριασμούς  που δεν γνωρίζω , παριστάνοντας εμένα ….. με εκθέτει ….. προσπαθεί να με γελοιοποιήσει …….υποτίθεται ότι έχω 20 λογαριασμούς…. Στέλνει και λίστες …κ.ά
 
Εύχομαι να είναι αυτός που υποψιάζομαι … (ο οποίος κάνει …..χαβαλέ … είναι μικρός σε ηλικία…. ακόμη τον περιμένουμε να έρθει για καφέ να τον γνωρίσουμε και από κοντά).
 
Aris
 
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but how can he make a screenshot of those progressbars?? that can only be done if you own the account and have logged in, and make a screenshot. so there he himself provided evidence that he actually is his own impostor, and he owns all accounts.

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#7 KARAISKAKIS

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 05:15 AM

@ Revealer

 

''but how can he make a screenshot of those progressbars?? that can only be done if you own the account and have logged in, and make a screenshot. so there he himself provided evidence that he actually is his own impostor, and he owns all accounts. ''

 

Aris1970 and ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΑΣ are the same person. This is known to all of us in the greek community long time ago. But pay attention that ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΑΣ is different username than MAKEDONAS who actually is an alliase of someone who tries to make damage to Aris1970's image.

One big proof is that this clown under the username MAKEDONIA-GR-1 has stated that he is same account as MAKEDONAS-HELLAS which I can ensure you that  is 100% false. 


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#8 Revealer

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 09:14 AM

@ Revealer
 
''but how can he make a screenshot of those progressbars?? that can only be done if you own the account and have logged in, and make a screenshot. so there he himself provided evidence that he actually is his own impostor, and he owns all accounts. ''
 
Aris1970 and ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΑΣ are the same person. This is known to all of us in the greek community long time ago. But pay attention that ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΑΣ is different username than MAKEDONAS who actually is an alliase of someone who tries to make damage to Aris1970's image.
One big proof is that this clown under the username MAKEDONIA-GR-1 has stated that he is same account as MAKEDONAS-HELLAS which I can ensure you that  is 100% false.


thank you for the clarifying reply; i misinterpreted the translated greek post then.
 
however, then why does the real aris with the ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΑΣ account like the posts of sevenseas/mr. smith that insinuate that the whole list is his. and why does aris1970 post the very long list of second accounts?


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Posted 17 June 2015 - 09:43 AM

thank you for the clarifying reply; i misinterpreted the translated greek post then.
 
however, then why does the real aris with the ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΑΣ account like the posts of sevenseas/mr. smith that insinuate that the whole list is his. and why does aris1970 post the very long list of second accounts?

 

Maybe he doesn't care what the other players think about him?

 

Why don't all the people stop complaining about this stuff and start playing the game? I am sure that I've played against some of this accounts from Aris in the past, but I simply don't care. We should concentrate on playing better stratego.


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#10 Aris1970

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 11:37 AM

@Mr smith

I have screenshots of all my games of last 6 months 

 

 

P.s. My 2 account have the same avatar (Aris1970 & ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΑΣ)
they are known !!!  I have post this before 1,5 years!!! 
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Posted 17 June 2015 - 01:28 PM

 

@Mr smith

I have screenshots of all my games of last 6 months 

 

 

P.s. My 2 account have the same avatar (Aris1970 & ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΑΣ)
they are known !!!  I have post this before 1,5 years!!! 
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Of course. Thats why I posted before we should just play the game.

I don't believe you're cheating or something like this because we all know that these accounts are yours. It is very obvious. :)



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Posted 17 June 2015 - 01:47 PM

The thing is, how can you know if people with aliases are not tranferring points?(logging into both accounts and searching a game simultaneously hoping to match eachother) but that is another topic.

 

This is really easy to prevent if you do something else for 5-10 minutes before joining the next game.



#13 Aris1970

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 02:12 PM

@ guys

MAKEDONIA-GR-1 said:  "your identified list is quite long"
and Aris1970 said: "My list is quite longest:"
 
my post was humor ........ it is obvious !!!  also, I did humor in many my posts 


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Posted 17 June 2015 - 02:41 PM

@Aris

 

Actually Revealer created this list responding in a pm with MAKEDONIA-GR-1 

Revealer, on 15 Jun 2015 - 4:45 PM, said:

yeah, your identified list is quite long:

  • Aris1970
  • MAKEDONAS
  • MAKEDONAS-HELLAS
  • IS-GR-MACEDONIA-
  • MACEDONIA IS 1GR
  • 1GR-MACEDONIA-1
  • 1GR-IS-MACEDONIA
  • TIGER 1 GR MACED
  • STRATARXIS-GR-1
  • MACEDONIA-GR-1
  • MACEDONIA-GR-2
  • GR-GR-MACEDONIA
  • warriorsss
and i am sure i have missed some yet    ;)

 

 
 
So the question is :
How Revealer found that you are connected with these accounts which it is obviously nonsenses?
And who is behind this account? Is he a greek who knows very well the english language? In that case it is clear that we speak for a certain person and Mods must take action. Probably an ISP check will give some answers.
Only thing that it is sure is that this man has made wrong estimation or he says lies to harm your image . Both ways  we speak about a person who must not be count seriously. 

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 03:34 PM

I see the name  'warriorsss"
I think that this name is not accidental in the list !!!
 



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Posted 17 June 2015 - 03:50 PM

 

How Revealer found that you are connected with these accounts which it is obviously nonsenses?
And who is behind this account? Is he a greek who knows very well the english language? 

 

 

Sounds like a teabag to me.


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Posted 17 June 2015 - 04:03 PM

Just ignore this clown. He'll go away soon enough if we do just that.

 

Don't respond to his PMs and don't instigate any fights/arguments. :)


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 09:28 AM

just make this a pay site.where you can have onley one account.

 

or lets all go back to metaforge and this is not for making advertisement

 

or follow players by ip number.when you can have onley one account.

 

onley few players told they have multie accounts. i whas one of them .

 

then no one told they have multie account from all the players on stratego mabey 5 player told there names so that didt work to.

 

then i stopt giving my new name  www.warzone.com. i have no problem if some one make a list from all player what there second or more accounts is so you can all see who some one is.mabey this works.

 

if whe all whant to stop this we can if onley 5 players thell there second accounts or more this whill never stop.

 

so please lets take action. dutch.


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Posted 30 July 2015 - 09:44 AM

we all ready talkt about this 

 

Second accounts: Ascertaining Player Identities
Started by GaryLSheltonSep 19 2014 08:31

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