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#721 whocaresman

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 03:06 PM

You did say "I feel it may have been a hack by my opponent"  Something weird happened, I should have gotten a loss, it said defeat after I resigned, but then docked me 0 points.  I have no problem if the moderators correct it, I don't want points I didn't earn.

I understand, no problem.  Saying it "may have been a hack" is different than saying "steelers is a cheater/hacker."  That is just acknowledging the possibility.  It is also possible (way more likely) that you didn't have anything to do with it.  I don't have any evidence suggesting you were responsible for what happened, however, I do think it is worth looking into as I haven't ever seen anything like that in my over 2000 games on this site. 



#722 Thanatophobia

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Posted 04 January 2016 - 06:59 PM

Sent on behalf of Lightborn :

 

Clear draw refusal by WIT 3. Please return my 22 points and deal with this player accordingly. 

 

Screenshots:

http://imgur.com/a/Rys37

 

http://imgur.com/j4D19EX

Any update?

This is why players keep doing this crap. They get away with it!



#723 Lonello

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Posted 04 January 2016 - 07:14 PM

Sent on behalf of Lightborn

Just 1 question here: why is it on behalf on...?


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#724 Lonello

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Posted 05 January 2016 - 11:08 AM

why is it on behalf on...?

 

Thanks, I understand Lightborn is your alt account here, we indeed have opened a case! But to have a strong case, we need several screenshots to judge if it was a draw situation, how many did you make?


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#725 Thanatophobia

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Posted 05 January 2016 - 05:24 PM

A bunch. They are in a thread from the link. The second pic is just the last one. There's plenty to choose from. 

Thanks. 



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Posted 06 January 2016 - 01:56 PM

OK, thanks, we'll have a look then :).


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#727 texaspete09

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Posted 08 January 2016 - 10:28 PM

http://imgur.com/a/5MAsP

 

This guy was a big pain in the butt and wasted a lot of my time.  I let him win after the third refusal.  I'll specify any pieces if you want me to.

 

edit: i don't think that link works.  Imgur wants me to confirm my email but it has not sent me one so I need to figure this out.  

 

edit: see below for links.


Edited by texaspete09, 08 January 2016 - 10:47 PM.

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#728 Fairway

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Posted 08 January 2016 - 10:41 PM

You should have stopped his miner in the end, and just surrendered. That would have made a better case, that they know 100 % you purposely lost.


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#729 sevenseas

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Posted 08 January 2016 - 10:43 PM

I don't think it's a valid case if the miner gets the flag..not sure though since a refusal was made 3 times for over 20 minutes


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#730 texaspete09

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Posted 08 January 2016 - 10:43 PM

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#731 texaspete09

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Posted 08 January 2016 - 10:46 PM

I figured after the third draw refusal, the game should be over anyways so I let him take my major and let his miners go through.


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#732 Emergency

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Posted 09 January 2016 - 11:06 AM

I want to report a unbelievable situation of refusing a draw by the player called TRUST ME

 

I proposed 3 times a draw but TRUST ME refused.
As you can see below on the right of every screenshot this game went on for more dan 50 minutes.
He even laughed (hahaha)

 

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#733 Master Mind

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Posted 09 January 2016 - 11:30 AM

You have to copy them to Paint, save them as JPEG and attach it to your post.



#734 Emergency

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Posted 09 January 2016 - 06:09 PM

You have to copy them to Paint, save them as JPEG and attach it to your post.

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Posted 09 January 2016 - 08:49 PM

I would like to report player Francescogvanni who refused an obvious draw situation with my flag being sealed and he has a loose flag.  His Col vs my Serg running around the lake for 10 minutes.  I gave him two fair warnings to accept draw or I would report him.  Unfortunately I forgot to take screen shot of 2nd draw refusal but, if you notice the game summery screen it shows the draw refusal not highlighted which meant I did offer him second draw he refused and I resigned right after.

 

http://i301.photobuc...reenshot 63.png First refusal

http://i301.photobuc...reenshot 64.png Warnings

http://i301.photobuc...reenshot 65.png Summery of game

MT found Francescogiovanni guilty of first degree draw refusal. 50 points will be deducted from his ranking and 13 points will be given back to Midnightguy for a draw instead of a defeat while 13 points will be taken away from FG for a draw instead of a victory


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#736 Napoleon 1er

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Posted 09 January 2016 - 09:23 PM

http://imgur.com/a/5MAsP

 

This guy was a big pain in the butt and wasted a lot of my time.  I let him win after the third refusal.  I'll specify any pieces if you want me to.

 

edit: i don't think that link works.  Imgur wants me to confirm my email but it has not sent me one so I need to figure this out.  

 

edit: see below for links.

According to the rules this is not a valid case. There was effectively a long period with several draw refusals and no game evolution but because you did not surrender we have to understand that you agreed to continue the game. Your opponent  did apparently profit from an opening to get your flag. So this is regular victory.


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#737 Napoleon 1er

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Posted 09 January 2016 - 09:27 PM

I want to report a unbelievable situation of refusing a draw by the player called TRUST ME

 

I proposed 3 times a draw but TRUST ME refused.
As you can see below on the right of every screenshot this game went on for more dan 50 minutes.
He even laughed (hahaha)

 

 attachicon.gifTrust_Me_1.jpgattachicon.gifTrust_Me_3.jpgattachicon.gifTrust_Me_4.jpgattachicon.gifTrust_Me_5.jpgattachicon.gifTrust_Me_7.jpg

MT will look at the case and reply shortly. have a good weekend.


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#738 texaspete09

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Posted 10 January 2016 - 01:05 AM

According to the rules this is not a valid case. There was effectively a long period with several draw refusals and no game evolution but because you did not surrender we have to understand that you agreed to continue the game. Your opponent  did apparently profit from an opening to get your flag. So this is regular victory.


I guess I can understand the verdict, but after the third draw refusal shouldn't the rest of the game be irrelevant? It can be seen in the third refusal that I had his miners locked down,so it wasn't like he got through and then I issued the final refusal.
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Posted 10 January 2016 - 09:32 AM

Well, the point is that as long as you do not surrender one can still believe that you are still willing to play, maybe in the hope of a mistake from your opponent. Surrendering after 2 draw refusal and min 10 minutes elapsed without game evolution is the real evidence that your intention was to terminate this game in a draw.


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Posted 10 January 2016 - 12:19 PM

I guess three draw requests are evidence enough that he wanted to finish the game in a draw, aren't them ? ^.^

 

On the other hand, if the victory stands because texaspete surrendered too late, there is still unfair draw refusal from his opponent. Shouldn't that be punished, as it is unsportsmanlike behavior ?


Edited by SisSen, 10 January 2016 - 12:20 PM.

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