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#221 TemplateRex

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Posted 10 March 2018 - 12:41 PM

I wopuld go for:

 

 ....         F7-G7 red captures 1 scout and corners col

then if blue moves major or 2nd scout red just make sure blue cannot pass his scout in red's field, so assume blue understands this and plays:

 

D9-E9  G7-F7

F8-E8 F7-E7

then if blue makes E7 - D7 E8-D8 if blue makes E7-F7 leave it cornered like this and start to move spy D2-D3

 

red shall get a win his tactic shall be exchanging gen for col, exchganging majors, exchanging last scouts till he remains with spy against marsh with 2 square rules at his advantage. To get it he shall possibly make first a vertical scout move when blue would move his marsh.

 

...still I believe this situation on the board can never happen. How can blue let red threatening both his col and scout on red's turn while all pieces in particular marsh is known? What was the last move of blue before red's turn?

 

You have the same line of reasoning. I had been thinking of 

 

1. F7xG7 A7xA6

2. A1xA10 D9-E9 

3. G7-F7 E9-E8 (since blue has 2SQR advantage, red can't take col and lose gen)

4. D2-D3 F8-F9 (swing the colonel around, using the marsh to block the gen)

5. D3-D4 F9-E9

6. D4-E4 E9-D9

7. E4-E5 D9-D8

8. E5-E6 D8-D7 and if red enters E7, the blue marsh will take, and if the spy retreats the colonel passes to the flag, so a blue win.

 

So red needs to make a vertical scout move to get the 2SQR advantage

1. F7xG7 A7xA6

2. A1-A9 and now blue can't pass the colonel through the center lane and the red spy/gen will push the blue marsh away from the flag. This variation is a red win.

 

I haven't analyzed yet what happens if the blue major retreats to the center instead.


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Posted 10 March 2018 - 01:25 PM

in this kind of situations who retreats loses. .. still my question is open: what was last move of blue before red's turn?


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Posted 10 March 2018 - 01:45 PM

in this kind of situations who retreats loses. .. still my question is open: what was last move of blue before red's turn?

 

I don't know, this puzzle wasn't invented by me. I'll think about a plausible scenario. But in any case, I am still not sure red can always win here.


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Posted 20 April 2018 - 10:29 AM

Situation that happened yesterday in which I had to referee during a live game.

 

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Blue plays A4 -> D4. How does this game end?

 

A: Red wins

B: Blue wins

C: Draw

 

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Posted 20 April 2018 - 12:36 PM

Spoiler

Edited by TemplateRex, 20 April 2018 - 12:51 PM.

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Posted 21 April 2018 - 10:05 AM

i would go for red wins


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Posted 21 April 2018 - 10:32 AM

i would go for red wins

 

How would you win? The variations I gave lead to endless repetition.


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Posted 21 April 2018 - 12:55 PM

c3-D3 then blu either D4-A4 or D4-I4

 

if D4-A4 D3-C3

then if A4-A2 C3-C2

A2-A4 and then E3-E4 if A4-A3 then E4-E3 and scout is trapped

 

if D4-I4 D3-D4 and scout needs min 3 move to get to A4 coming from the other side of the lakes and red has plenty of time to make E7-F7 then B8-B7 and bring his miner in F7 to the flag/bomb zone before captain from A9

 

...note that above answer from referee "red wins" is valid if blue asked for draw but if red asked for draw then it is draw ... not sure to have understood what the referree has been called to judge for, I assume referree has been called by one of the player for draw request


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Posted 24 May 2018 - 02:00 PM

Quiz #1 by DeepLimbo

 

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Red to play. Consider all pieces known.

 

With perfect play, what should the result be?


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Posted 24 May 2018 - 02:22 PM

Good to see more puzzles :).

 

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Posted 24 May 2018 - 02:26 PM

win for blue, after testing


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Posted 24 May 2018 - 02:26 PM

Red should win. But blue should be shot for being so lackadaisical with his extra pieces leaving them in the back row like that.

If red pushes forward with one miner, the middle blue sergeant has to attack it. Then red moves forward with the other miner. If blue moves over with one of his back row pieces, all red has to do is go to the middle bomb because the sergeant is out of place. If the blue sergeant returns to cover his original spot in the middle, all the red miner need do is press forward to the back row for that bomb and then the win.
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Posted 24 May 2018 - 02:40 PM

He doesnt have to attack that miner, Gary. Win for blue.


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Posted 24 May 2018 - 02:46 PM

"Edited by Unladen Swallow, A minute ago."  :D 


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Posted 24 May 2018 - 02:48 PM

I deny this. I had the right answer the first time, CLOWN. 


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Posted 24 May 2018 - 03:59 PM

So after some consideration, our two platinum marshals are both claiming that blue is winning. I humbly urge you both to reconsider your opinion and have a second look.


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Posted 24 May 2018 - 04:00 PM

US initially said red would win, so should that be, somehow, the case, the shame is all mine :).

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Posted 24 May 2018 - 04:02 PM

Easy win for red.

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Posted 24 May 2018 - 04:24 PM

Blue wins. Blues middle sgt stays put regardless of reds move. Whichever piece red moves, the backrow piece of blue on the same side moves towards his own flag. With perfect play, red can not win.
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Posted 24 May 2018 - 04:29 PM

...very good quizz dimbo. The clowns have been confused. Red wins ...

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