I think Midnightguy has a really good idea here. I would simplify it a bit though. There’s no need to have so many levels. By the time someone got their 19th quit they would have lost 1500 points! Even with wins factored in they would have been taken down to 100 long before this point. Another thing is that disconnects are only an issue when the player loses. So a win should not assist a player in removing a quit point. We don’t want players who have a high win percentage to be able to get away with disconnecting on the majority of their losses. Rather, only a series of losses without a disconnect should count toward quit removal. If we just count losses, it wouldn’t need to be 5 games without a disconnect, but instead say 3 losses without a disconnect. Also, I think four free quits is too much and that the penalty should come sooner. So I propose something like this:
1 quit: No effect
2 quits: A warning email is sent to the player
3 quits: -25 points
4 or more quits: -50 points for each infraction
1 quit is removed anytime a player has 3 losses that didn't result from disconnect since the last quit.
I think this would be sufficient to stop quitters. Nobody is going to want to keep losing 50 points every time they quit. It wouldn't be worth the 5 seconds it takes to click surrender and confirm.
The Prof, I'm sorry for not reading this more closely earlier when you posted it. I will give kudos to Midnightguy for the idea, but this is a distinct improvement for an overall system. I like your penalty schedule though I would alter the email requirement as only Ash can do that now. Maybe we could simply post in the third thread as I've described below. But your ideas are, as usual, excellent. It must, as you say, be a "good" loss that removes a "quit" mark and not ever a win by the disconnector. Because now we are talking about losses, I fully concur with reducing the required number of losses to 3 instead of the current 5. On top of this I would NOT count "good" losses in the QUICK VENUE in removing "quit" marks in the FULL VENUE. (I don't know if quitting is a problem in the Quick venue at all, but if it is then it should be dealt with separately from the full venue disconnects.)
One thing that I've been wondering about is the mechanics of doing all this. Here's a plan that I have. First, I suggest we have four pinned threads under Game Discussion:
- thread one for making the accusations (similar to this thread currently, only the new pinned one would start fresh with enactment of this rule);
- thread two as a venue for clearing the "quit" marks; and
- thread three for a centralized Public Announcement and appeals venue with the MT, solely on this issue
- thread four for a tally sheet for the MT's use only.
If someone wants to post a screenshot of a guilty disconnector, they post it to that thread one. If someone wants to "redeem" a quit point with a "good" loss, he posts a screenshot to thread two. All decisions by the MT, and appeals by players, would go to thread three. The fourth thread would be where the MT keeps everything straight, and no one would be allowed to post there except MT members. (Could be a pm here but pm's have a way of disappearing....) Call the four threads "The Disconnector Accusations Thread"; "The Quit Mark Redemption Thread"; "The MT Announcements/Disconnector Appeals Thread"; and "The Disconnecor Records Thread", perhaps. These separate threads would greatly benefit the MT in both keeping the posts on point and segregating this topic from other topics that they must deal with. It would give the MT a place to move any post on this subject made elsewhere.
The MT would begin to monitor for posts by Accusers, and those players posting "good" losses, and then tally these in the fourth thread. They would make Public Announcements in the centralized third thread to announce any actions. (This would be similar to "The Bomb" gathering place we have for the present tournament.) These Public Announcements might take the form of single missives, or they could be weekly or bi-weekly digests listing all names with Punitive Actions taken against them in that time, plus those players with changes in their Quit Marks or Good Losses counts in that time.
We would follow the penalty schedule laid out by The Prof above. Players could clear a "quit" mark with 3 "good" losses. (Note that any valid disconnect would also go away with the 3 "good" losses posted, but players would be allowed to appeal if they felt their disconnect was a bona fide computer issue.) I also suggest that all quit marks and good losses be reset on January 1st each year so that everyone can start afresh each year. To keep things clear for the MT, perhaps all screenshots used in assessing punitive points could be marked in the first thread somehow--blatantly and obviously--so that they were not used again. The same marking procedure would go for the second thread for any "good" losses that were used to redeem "quit" marks, as well.
Could we do this, MT?